I remember at the DW Stadium a few years ago, Wello was on all fours after attempting a tackle. McIlorum was unfortunate enough to run past him and accidentally knee him in the head. Weird how it's happened twice, can't remember the last time it happened with another hooker.



Third man into the ribs I wouldn't class as "good" defence, but it's part of the game nowadays and you can't really legislate for it beyond referees calling held quicker. Don't really have an issue with it providing it isn't a cannonball.

Part of the reason people suggest the game has become soft is because the Sky commentary is useless. Because they have no idea what a shoulder charge is, they suggest that ANY tackle that uses a shoulder is a shoulder charge, unnecessarily creating controversy and so on. It's awful to listen to

I agree that stricter enforcement of existing laws wold probably do more good (and less harm) than bringing in new ones.

As mentioned by a few the ref's need to call held sooner. Regularly neither attacker or defender has won collision and a wrestle ensues, momentum has stopped but the ref doesn't call held allowing other players plenty of time to join the tackle late and put the player to the floor. It's rarely against the rules but often dangerous. If held was called sooner, ie when momentum has stopped, the attacker would still be on his feet allowing a quick play the ball which is exactly what the defenders are trying to prevent. Defenders would then be encouraged to put the player to the floor sooner effectively eliminating the third man in problem.

I agree with those who said the attackers should be made to play the ball correctly. I've no issue with them stepping to the side to avoid a defender who hasn't cleared the rook but they shouldn't be allowed to step forward.

By the way, if you're interested in the conditioning work a player goes through, there's a nice article here: rugbystrengthcoach.com/a-week-of ... parations/ Whilst it's RU, and not quite a normal in-season our out of season session, it's a good insight. Keir is working in RU right now, but a league guy at heart.

By the way, if you're interested in the conditioning work a player goes through, there's a nice article here: rugbystrengthcoach.com/a-week-of ... parations/ Whilst it's RU, and not quite a normal in-season our out of season session, it's a good insight. Keir is working in RU right now, but a league guy at heart.

BUMP - having seen the tackle on Crabtree ( yellow card ) noone would have batted a eyelid 5/10 years ago and the Wardle tackle wasnt great but would never have been a red card in a millions years

To be fair, Crabtree landed with his head and neck bent, I'm sure we all want to see more Alex McKinnon's don't we?
And the Wardle one was a red card every day, it wasn't malicious but it was lazy.

There is more emphasis on duty of care now, especially concerning heads, than there was 10-15, 20 years ago, and rightly so, i don't think rugby league has gone soft, i think society has, because there has to be more responsibility and care now, otherwise you're likely to end up in court.