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You're right. Though I would argue / i find that the discrimination against the others particularly amongst the metrosexuals is more covert.

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Quote: Mugwump "And these players in SL who speak completely indecipherable English are ... who?

Kind of makes one wonder how they could ever have become professional rugby league players in the first place. Do they communicate with teammates using hand gestures? Smoke signals? Cave paintings?'"


We can start with James Jones-Buchanan, who is utterly unintelligible to me. I cringe every time a TV interviewer mistakenly puts a microphone in front of his face.

James Peacock is not a lot better, though if I concentrate hard I can pick up the drift of his conversation, which is often impossible with JJB.

It is not a matter of being working class. Adrian Morley is much easier to listen to, even though he comes from Salford Quays. (It also helps a little for his appeal to the the TV audience that Adrian Morley has a very pleasant face, and a calmly amiable personality, unlike the other two whom I have mentioned, who thus labour with a double disadvantage).

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Quote: Mugwump "And these players in SL who speak completely indecipherable English are ... who?'"


Australians, generally.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "When you put Stevo on a list of intelligent, articulate people you're losing the argument from the start of the first stanza. There'll be claret spilled over this one, you might want to try something different like a little chip over the top or getting the link working for the second phase.

Stevo's a random cliche machine. He might have the sharpest brain in rugby league for all we know, but he has absolutely no idea of how to get what's in his head across to the viewing public without repeating himself endlessly even when it's perfectly clear to all concerned that he's wrong.

Having had the pleasure of listening to Peacock speak as part of his "No White Flag" business, he's far more eloquent than people give him credit for. Sinfield - if he could get over what appears to be some inherent shyness in front of the camera - is a deep thinker and a good communicator, like a less excitable Jon Wells. You can see why he gets on well with Brian McDermott, who's in a similar mould.

Isn't all you want from a player/coach in front of the cameras to be able to express the point they're trying to get across in a way that even non-fans of the game can understand, and to come across as a likeable, engaging character while doing it? They don't need to have the vocabulary of Will Self.'"


Getting the message out - like it.

Andy Raleigh is pretty good on Radio Leeds

Remember the interview with Gaz Hock what the BBC did when he got the boot from the England squad. "I just overlied" ha ha ha

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Quote: ryano "Yeah we need more highbrow presenters like Beau Ryan. The Footy Show had him devouring raw chillies, spoonfuls of vegemite and plain weet-bix. Very highbrow.'"


I've been told that in Australia Baeu Ryan is hilarious.

I just think it's a case of humour not translating well from Australia to the UK where most people have been to school.

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Tony rea is an excellent pundit and is wasted by sky doing his ten minute piece on a sunday night. On the subject of sky, has Paul Cullen been given a permanent break from their commentary team? Can't remember the last time I saw him on there.

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