Wane is irresponsible and was totally at fault for the incident happening in the first place. He wound them up so much with his 110% aggression approach that it was inevitable that as soon as they started to lose the forward battle (And the did massively throughout the entire game) their players would snap.

His comments this week have been bizarre. He said they would have won by 30 had that incident not happened. No chance, Saints' pack was far too dominant and Wigan would have had to really throw it around to score.

It's pretty unbelievable that he's still coaching Wigan and hasn't been sanctioned by the RFL either. The Sky documentary brought Wigan's reputation to it's knees, his behaviour on that was simply unacceptable and how Leneghan left him in charge after that is bizarre. To come out this week and say Flower, returning from a 6 month ban for uncontrolled violence, should be more aggressive on his return is also completely reckless. If Flower goes high first tackle, or commits any sort of high shot early doors, then he's leaving himself open. It's a huge risk and not in the player's interest either. He should be dampening down the hype and speculation and pressure, not heaping it on and stoking the fire. All Wane has done this week is paint a huge target on Flower's shirt for both the referees and opposition players to target. Irresponsible and ill advised.

Well as a Wigan fan i completely agree that Wane did not have to push this out to the media.

However as we have become accustomed to during the last 3 years, Wane loves to have a good natter to the press. He will openly discuss almost every aspect of his thoughts with the press.

Honestly i would not read to much into it. Its what he does.

How am I trying to turn flower into the victim? What's done is done, what happened-happened it's old news, it was stupid and a rush of blood, I just don't see the point in keep dragging it up

Which is kind of my point - he needs to think about the connotations of his comments. Wigan need either a different front man or a better media manager who can reign in his comments and probably veto anything that backs up the thugby reputation - such as the airing of that awful team talk on the documentary....

Also, I don't accept your view that ALL coaches are the same - I've never heard another coach tell their team to go out and be 'wreckless' as Wane did on the documentary. But, even if they do, that's not the image we should be portraying in the media.

Right.

At no point gave I said anything remotely like 'all coaches say be reckless'

I said all coaches will ask for aggression. As do fans and even the commentators ask for more 'aggression'

It's what wins rugby league games.

There was me thinking it was skill- perhaps that just the NRL?