You really shouldn't be posting if you're under 11 years of age. You've obviously got some anger issues as well



Good Friday was a good barometer of full strength teams going at it and you were hammered at Langtree Park. Wigan also suffered with a massive injury list as did many others throughout the season so your delusional quote of you finishing 8 points clear of everyone fit is just that.

Reality is they were the best two teams in the competition and most likely will be again this year.

It really is quite balanced and hard to predict. A lot of clubs have a wide range of finishing positions.

St Helens have the best squad on paper, but a question mark over their coach.

People are underestimating Catalans who should be much better this year not just because of Carney (if he doesn't self-destruct) but because of the return of Casty as main forward.

Leeds could literally come anywhere between 1st and 10th. Still have the best 1-5 in the league if they can learn how to use them and some forwards (Peacock, Ablett, Cuthbertson) who would get into every other side. But they played terribly for the second half of last season.

Cas have signed some decent players but lost their two most important men from last year. And Luke Gale is rubbish.

Salford can do well if, and it's a big if, Chase can blend with Dobson.

Wigan
St Helens
Catalans
Warrington
Huddersfield
Leeds
Salford
Hull KR
Castleford
Widnes
Wakefield
Hull FC

you want to read some of the stuff she posts on the saints forum. clearly the work of a year 9 or 10 pupil

I'm guessing you have a serious disliking of Hull

That is interesting

Not really, just think too many changes will be both clubs downfall, FC again with widespread changes, theyve done this before and have been poor last few seasons

KR have had plenty of losses and their replacements are of a lesser standard, and they weren't very good last year

It is interesting. Not really Because of the results but the other stuff that went in to them. There is a 7 league point swing between leeds and Cas but only a 36 points difference. Leeds managed to lose 8 games draw one and win only 4 but still had a points difference of -14, which is pretty unbelievable really. Wakefield have a 36 point worse points difference but got 4 points.

Generally this would point to this teams with small numbers + and - had a lot of close games, and there where you don't often find a club has long term better results, so there should be some reversion to the middle, so next year you would expect Leeds to win a few mor home games and Cas and Wakefield to lose a few more. That's not to say they will win or lose more in total, just those small margin games.

EIGHT
Saints
Wigan
Salford
Catalan
Warrington
Huddersfield
Leeds
Hull FC

BOTTOM FOUR
Castleford
Hull KR
Widnes
Wakefield

1. Warrington
2. Wigan
3. St Helens
4. Huddersfield
5. Leeds
6. Catalans
7. Castleford
8. Salford

Bottom 4 from
Hull KR
Widnes
Wakefield
Hull FC

Warrington - I think they will have a good year, made some good signings but for me they have a consistent backroom coaching staff in place. I think some people are placing too much emphasis on new signings rather than the coaches in place.

St Helens - See my point above. I gather Nathan Brown wasn't universally liked by the Saints fans but I think it might take time to get used to Cunningham/Long etc.

Wigan - Will be there or thereabouts, we all know they can play but maintaining their physical approach without losing discipline is their biggest problem.

Huddersfield - Will challenge but how long can they rely on Brough to call the shots?

Leeds - See above (but replace Brough with Sinfield/Peacock etc).

Catalans - Could finish higher if they sorted away form out. Which they won't. Just about unbeatable at home.

Castleford - Won't do as well, Clark is a big loss but I think we have better halfbacks this year, 7th will still be a good achievement. Cannot understand those tipping us to slip by 6/7 places though!

Salford - Will finish in the playoffs but will it be seen as an achievement by the Doc? Will he resist his usual outbursts? And has he put in a place a proper marketing team to **promote** the team or it is just him posting twitter rants again?

The bottom 4 is harder to call.

Wakefield constantly have that fighting spirit and I think will just avoid bottom (once again).

Widnes - Sorry Widnes fans but I have never been convinced by Betts, shown up badly in the big games last year (apart from the Playoff game).

And as for both Hull teams...for me it's one of the greatest mysteries in rugby league why they invest heavily in stadiums, playing squad etc, and then it's as if they have checked their pockets and realised they only have a couple of toffees, a bit of string and a pack of football stickers so thats the coaching budget sorted. I am sure in time Radford and Chester could become good coaches but I feel both would benefit from managing a team in the championship and then working up to a Super League job.

Wakefield might suprise a few this year well coached just see them in 8th

Probably a very fair assessment.