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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"Winning trophies at Leeds in 2004 was not a piece of cake by any means. Leeds won in large part due to Smith's ability to give talented players the confidence to win as well as to finely hone their skills - all the Leeds players from that era will acknowledge the debt they owe Smith in both respects.
Wane I don't know about; I imagine he is living off the structures put in place by Maguire and the tactical nous of Paul Deacon. At Leeds it was Smith who was responsible for both.'"
so it's all paul deacon now, except we won the double last year when Harris was there so it must have been all him.
you don't have to like Shaun Wane or think he should be England coach but let's stop talking crap and realise he's a very good rugby league coach.
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| Garry Schofield wants Wane or Powell to get the job.
Not like him to be climbing aboard a bandwagon, unless there's free beer on it.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"
Powell couldn't do it with a Cas side that were underdogs and fell apart in the playoffs/Cup Final, so why could he do it with England?'"
More time and more resources,perhaps?
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| TBF all touring parties have discipline problems.
Mal Reilly was/is a much scarier prosepct than Shaun Wane yet players still went off the rails in 1990 and 1992 when Reilly was GB coach. Bobbie Goulding ended up in court and Lee Crooks and Andy Gregory went off on one (according to their own biographies).
I expect there are many more stories that never got out.
It comes with the territory.
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| All said and done, does anyone feel the slightest bit sorry for McNamara? He was minutes away from taking England to a World Cup final, a finger tip away from a victory over Australia last week and a couple of missed conversions from beating the Kiwis.
Must be hard to take for the bloke.
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| Quote John Gilbert Reds="John Gilbert Reds" a finger tip away from a victory over Australia last week '"
I keep reading this from a few sources.
We weren't a finger tip away from anything. We were a fair TV ref away from knocking Australia out. That same TV ref is back on duty this weekend.
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| Quote Colly2="Colly2"I keep reading this from a few sources.
We weren't a finger tip away from anything. We were a fair TV ref away from knocking Australia out. That same TV ref is back on duty this weekend.'"
Point being, McNamara has been desperately unlucky at crucial times of the game.
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| Quote John Gilbert Reds="John Gilbert Reds"Point being, McNamara has been desperately unlucky at crucial times of the game.'"
I agree.
It's just that I'm still sore!
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| Quote John Gilbert Reds="John Gilbert Reds"Point being, McNamara has been desperately unlucky at crucial times of the game.'"
How true! Just shows how narrow the margins are between winning and losing at top level RL. Never Mac's biggest fan but can't help but feel sorry for him - he nearly got England to the World Cup final and now he's nearly got England to the Four Nations!
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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"Despite having little time for him previously, I think persisting with McNamara may be the best option - the team is clearly a work in progress but the fact that there is progress is good. I'd take soundings from the senior players though. McDermott may be an option if they feel McNamara is done.
No way can Wane be involved with England - it's just inappropriate after the background to the Flower scandal and given what most elite players think of the Wigan approach to Rugby League.'"
Most of the elite players in England are coached by Wane. Nearly all the rest used to be. 
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| Total Number of players in England 2014 4 Nations Squad – 24
Total number currently coached or once coached by Shaun Wane - 8
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