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| By the strict rules of the game it was a try. To suggest that it was a rising ball which pushed Hall's finger back is simply not borne out by the video evidence & it's a contrived explanation to support the on field ref's initial decision.
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| I dont understand how every kick by Matty Smith resulted in him being tackled and not a single 1 was penalised as late
Quite incredible really
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| Cannot understand people saying England blew it because of the poor second half performance. Maybe England getting absolutely hammered by the referee in one of the worst biased refeering performances I have ever seen. Ow, and the behond scandalous decision by the VF at the death.
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| Quote Nozzy="Nozzy"Don't think that was even a 50/50 call, after watching it 5/6 times it looked to be a clear cut try. That felt like a kick in the guts, I am stunned that they can disallow it. The 'excuse' for not awarding it was that the ball was rising when he touched it but there is clear evidence to show that the ball was flat on the ground when Hall's finger hit it.
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we might as well play American football with an end zone if that is a clear cut try..it was a 50/50 call with Australia getting the ccall
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| Funny how the two reasons he gave for a no try were dispelled. Ryan Hall was going for Inglis not the ball - nope... ball was on its way up on to Hall's finger - no, it was on its way down. You could tell he was desperate to find a way NOT to award it - see the way he played it in normal speed as the last shot before the big screen, because it never looked a try in real time. The Slow mo and freeze frame displayed the facts.
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| Penalty count 5-0 to aus in the second half. Australia got back in the game in the second half.
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| Quote adelaide-giant.no9="adelaide-giant.no9"www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/kangaroos-1612-win-over-england-saves-australias-four-nations-hopes-20141102-11frv5.html'"
does this prove it wasn't a try?...no it doesn't. so neither do the photos proving it was a try
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| Quote adelaide-giant.no9="adelaide-giant.no9"does this prove it wasn't a try?...no it doesn't. so neither do the photos proving it was a try'"
Positive statements are more verifiable than negative ones. A million pictures of something not happening are rendered irrelevant by one showing it did.
Interesting to hear the Aussie commentary on it. They seemed to think it wasn't a try at full speed, then began say to it was on the slow mo replays, seemed to become disorientated at that prospect and then just went in to unreasoning denial - 'Nooooooo', and a preference for the faster version - 'you can't give that'.
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| Disgusted. We got nothing in the 2nd half, the Aussies were allowed to mess around and lie on all day while we got penalised for the same.
That performance and the final disallowed try is clear evidence of why neutral officials is an absolute must. But still we bow to their ridiculous demands and throw the game into farce.
Hall's finger grounds the ball, clear as day. "The ball was rising" is a shocking excuse - the ball was on the ground, simple.
If they're going to cheat, at least be subtle about it. I'm almost embarrassed for them.
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"Disgusted. We got nothing in the 2nd half, the Aussies were allowed to mess around and lie on all day while we got penalised for the same.
That performance and the final disallowed try is clear evidence of why neutral officials is an absolute must. But still we bow to their ridiculous demands and throw the game into farce.
Hall's finger grounds the ball, clear as day. "The ball was rising" is a shocking excuse - the ball was on the ground, simple.
If they're going to cheat, at least be subtle about it. I'm almost embarrassed for them.'"
the " clear grounding" is open to speculation, but the call of " ball was rising" is just so wrong...all the ref had to say was " no clear grounding" and as with nrl video rules( which they must be using as all tries were awarded/disallowed before going to video)....so with the last try if ref didn't make a call and they are playing nrl rules, then " no try" was the presumed call....the try was 50/50 , so with nrl rules the try was cancelled
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