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Quote: Mugwump "Again, before lauding Clark - he blew two tries.'"


No, he didn't.

On the first one, even if he'd passed, there was no guarantee that Widdop or Hall would have scored; the Aussies had defenders pouring across. (Given that we scored from the resulting penalty, can you blow a try that was scored anyway, ha ha)

The second occasion, Clark tried to offload whilst being tackled. Even if Widdop had gathered the ball, I would still expect him to be tackled by Cherry-Evans.

If you are going to criticize Clark's choices, on the first occasion, a pass would have created an opportunity, but it was a long way from being a certainty.

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I'm all over Wigan's grub tactics, but I don't think Farrell did much wrong. He was attempting to turn Inglis over to slow the play the ball. It was Inglis was forced the pressure on the joint by resisting it.

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Not sure how you can cry "chicken wing" when Inglis is holding onto the front of Farrell's shirt? If he lets go, there's not a problem.

As for the supposed "crusher" tackle, that was pathetic. I understand the Aussies are filling their nappies about neck injuries post Alex McKinnon, but there was absolutely nothing wrong with O'Loughlin's challenge.

On the second row point, how are Whitehead and Tomkins out there ahead of Carl Ablett? Hugely under-rated player who has a good work-rate, good hands and deceptive footwork.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "On the second row point, how are Whitehead and Tomkins out there ahead of Carl Ablett? Hugely under-rated player who has a good work-rate, good hands and deceptive footwork.'"

Got to admit I was surprised at Ablett's omission from the squad, and I for one have never underrated him. As you say, deceptive speed and feet and a superb work rate, also very powerful, aggressive in defence and a very dangerous runner, especially near the line.

Not seen enough of Whitehead to really offer an opinion, but I'd have no complaints if Joel was dropped and someone else given a chance based on the last 2 weeks.

I'd also have no complaints if Sam was dropped for Hardaker. There's a worrying air of nerves and uncertainty every time the bomb goes up and that is unacceptable. Hardaker is a safe specialist fullback, and his running game came on wonderfully last season, he was making yards for fun.

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Farrell, Tomkins and Ferres made 214m from 24 runs between them. Greg Bird, Corey Parker and Boyd Cordner 402 from 46 runs - i.e. twice the workrate and yardage. By comparison our props all made over 100m each.

Our backrow is inferior to Australia's - as a group. Its not just the work on the ball, its the much higher quality work done off the ball by the likes of Bird which stands out.

Add in some poor defence and I'd get rid of as many as I can for next week, because others deserve a chance. I haven't included SOL in this because it was his first game back and his game does include more than just running.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Farrell, Tomkins and Ferres made 214m from 24 runs between them. Greg Bird, Corey Parker and Boyd Cordner 402 from 46 runs - i.e. twice the workrate and yardage. By comparison our props all made over 100m each.

Our backrow is inferior to Australia's - as a group. Its not just the work on the ball, its the much higher quality work done off the ball by the likes of Bird which stands out.

Add in some poor defence and I'd get rid of as many as I can for next week, because others deserve a chance. I haven't included SOL in this because it was his first game back and his game does include more than just running.'"


Didn't need stats to show that! I pointed it out before the game. We have the worst pack we've had in years - masked by Graham and the fact that George Burgess tanks up it and makes yards. The Aussies exposed that pack weakness at the point Sheens saw us tire and brought on another scrum half. My only surprise was that Australia were so poor they did not control the ball first half. If they had they would, as I predicted, have won by 20+ with GI getting a hat-trick. As it was he came close - scored one, had one disallowed for obstruction and one saved by a great tackle from our 'Aussie'!

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