Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "If you are basing your judgment strictly on all round rugby league talent then there is no doubt that Andrew Johns is the greatest player of all time.
Andrew Johns had a unique capability to see a football field player alignment and create scoring opportunities for himself or his team mates based on that. He was a great passer of the ball, the best field kicker of all time (he even invented the banana kick) and a great goal kicker (one of the top point scorers of all time). On top of that he was a very strong defender. As a running half back he also had a sidestep and a good dummy. But he was the greatest because he was simply the most creative player of all time.
Everyone else mentioned lines up behind Andrew Johns. It is worth noting that Andrew Johns was added to the most select group of Australian players -- the NRL Immortals -- less than ten years after he retired, and before older and highly respected contenders like Malcolm Meninga.
To suggest that Neil Fox was a better player is laughable. List Fox's skills and then compare them with the list I have enumerated for Johns. No contest. Fox was not even as formidable as Malcolm Meninga.
Darren Lockyer was very talented but was a weak defender, unlike Johns.
Ellery Hanley was one of the great English players of all time, and definitely world class, but he lacked several of the skills in Johns' repertoire.
Roger Millward was a brilliant running five eighth, perhaps the best five eighth that England has produced, but did not have all the skills that Johns had.
I would place Johnathan Thurston ahead of several of the players mentioned above, especially obviously Neil Fox. But even the brilliant Thurston stands behind Andrew Johns.'"
This whole thread is laughable but you're the icing on the cake.
Neil Fox is without doubt one of the greatest RL players of all time - an absolute machine. Whether he's the best is purely theoretical and subjective, also how you compare a H/B with a Centre/Forward only you seem to know. What's for sure is he deserves to be up there and in contention with the others - so show some respect you ignorant stupid windbag.
Your obsession with Johns is truly baffling - a lesser Wally Lewis in every respect IMHO. Good player but not up there with Wally or a few more IMHO. As for being the inventor of the Banana kick, give over you silly man, players have been messing about with that one since the game began, at best Johns perfected it - invented it, you really are pure comic gold.