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Quote: Durham Giant "Considering you constantly show us you are a man of the world who was coached at 10 to knock people out i can claim on my own experience that Flower would have known that Hohaia was knocked out.

I have played rugby, soccer, gaelic football and hurling. I was an amateur boxer and have had a few scrapes in my life.

I can tell you 100% that you know when you have given someone a clean punch. You know pretty well when you have hit that sweet spot and someone is going down.

When they are down and you have to bend down on one knee and the opponents hands are splayed wide so that you can hit them again you know they are gone
No matter how quick it is you know they are not fighting back, you know they are not covering up you know they are out.

You know this instantaneously, you know it instinctively, you know it objectively.

He knew he was knocked out but he had so lost himself in his emotion or anger or frustration he did not care and still went for it.

Either way that scenario is very very scary and something the RFL need to deal with'"


As you seem to be experienced in various combat/contact sports would you agree with me that it would be extremely unusual for somebody to strike another person ' in the heat of the moment' with their weaker arm ? . I would like to know if Lance is right or left-handed . From all the angles I have seen of the incident it looks like a two-handed push and that the left hand slipped from Ben's shoulder and the forearm slid against his chin rather than a direct strike .

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Quote: Saddened! "I bet a few at Goonville are sweating a little now. If he understood what it meant, Ben Flower might be as well. Hopefully Lance is okay and has no long term impact on his health. Hopefully this won't be the start of legal action against the sport as has happened in the NFL recently.'"


If Lance Hohaia had post concussion syndrome there is no way he would even be training, let alone playing up until very recently. This is just spin to get him off Saints books so they can bring in McDonnell. It really wouldn't surprise me if Lance signs with an NRL club within the next month.

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "If Lance Hohaia had post concussion syndrome there is no way he would even be training, let alone playing up until very recently. This is just spin to get him off Saints books so they can bring in McDonnell. It really wouldn't surprise me if Lance signs with an NRL club within the next month.'"


McDonnell is more of a replacement for Lomax, whose also out for the season as opposed Lance.

What type of problems Lance has been suffering is undisclosed (and rightfully so), and has been in and out of the team (inexplicably it seemed until now). The prospect of long term damage is much scarier (especially when your considering retirement already) then any nefarious tactics to move around the cap...

Also, Saints didn't say anything btw, this has all come from lance - so no it's not saints spin

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "If Lance Hohaia had post concussion syndrome there is no way he would even be training, let alone playing up until very recently. This is just spin to get him off Saints books so they can bring in McDonnell. It really wouldn't surprise me if Lance signs with an NRL club within the next month.'"


Bizarre. You don't know what medical ailments he has anymore than I do. If he's got symptoms he'll be assessed by professionals and those are the people who will diagnose him. Hopefully he'll have a break and be assessed and be found to have no long term issues. If he doesn't those professional medics will be able to say whether it's possible to define the time the injuries occurred, not people on here.

McDonnell is a stop gap we'd probably already been looking at following Lomax's injuries. KC has said several times he'd bring in a fullback if he could and possibly this does allow that to happen without cap concerns. But if that were the case, they would just put out a statement saying he'd 'left by mutual consent' or 'returned to Australia for personal reasons with the clubs best wishes' like happens all the time with overseas players. Neither Saints nor Hohaia would make up a story for the sake of it, let alone one that could materially damage the sport. Hohaia has been on the periphery of things at Saints, only ever playing because other players were injured. If the chance to release him came up, Saints would have taken it a long time ago. There is no need for a cover story here?

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "If Lance Hohaia had post concussion syndrome.'"

...what's your excuse?

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "If Lance Hohaia had post concussion syndrome there is no way he would even be training, let alone playing up until very recently. This is just spin to get him off Saints books so they can bring in McDonnell. It really wouldn't surprise me if Lance signs with an NRL club within the next month.'"

He'll have egg on his face if he does, surely?

Is it the sort of thing that in, say, 2 years he could be fit to play again? Or has he got it for life?

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