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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "If a player used a firearm on the pitch it would certainly be within the public interest for the police to intervene. And I don't think anyone has actually presented the argument that anything on the pitch is fine so I don't see the relevance in countering a non existent argument.

Some people are using the argument "if it happened on the street he'd be arrested, therefore he should be arrested" but that applies to all incidents of fighting on the field; they'd all be arrestable offences "on the street", and no, players don't have to accept being punched or otherwise struck as part of the game. Those things are explicitly excluded from the sport by virtue of the laws of the game.

The other thing to mention is that if Hohaia did make this a criminal matter his own infraction (the forearm to Flower's jaw) would surely be brought into question, since that too would be an arrestable offence "on the street". The CPS couldn't turn a blind eye to a forearm in the face on the basis that it occurred during a game of rugby if they were prosecuting the person who was forearmed in the face for retaliating disproportionately.'"


If it happened on the street Flower would be perfectly entitled to claim self defence and he'd probably get off with no charge, maybe even a well done.

The if it happened on the street argument fails because on the street what he did is exactly what any sensible person would do, eliminate the threat as quickly as possible and make sure the threat does not persist.

On the pitch, as difficult as it may be, you take the blow and smile as the aggressor walks off for 10 minutes or the rest of the game while your kicker is lining up for two points. Had he done that then I'm sure Wigan would have won and everyone would be commending him on his restraint in the face of an assault from Hot Head Hohoia.

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Quote: Bal "They would have, yes. But he didn't so that is somewhat mute. If a player punched another player in any game and they complained to the police they would have to look at it. Its potentially common assault.'"
i dont believe they would. A punch is a well established part of the game (rightly or wrongly) and there is an expectation of its possibility. What Flower did is entirely different.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "i dont believe they would. A punch is a well established part of the game (rightly or wrongly) and there is an expectation of its possibility. What Flower did is entirely different.'"


I'm not saying the complaint would get anywhere. They would take the nature of the sport, and its governing body into account and likely dismiss it.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "i dont believe they would. A punch is a well established part of the game (rightly or wrongly) and there is an expectation of its possibility. What Flower did is entirely different.'"

A punch is a well established [itransgression[/i. That isn't the same as it being a part of the game. Either the police are duty bound to investigate a complaint where an assault has occurred or they are not. They could not, without any impropriety, investigate Flower without investigating Hohaia.

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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "A punch is a well established [itransgression[/i. That isn't the same as it being a part of the game. Either the police are duty bound to investigate a complaint where an assault has occurred or they are not. They could not, without any impropriety, investigate Flower without investigating Hohaia.'"

Just because you have set up a false dichotomy, doesnt make it true.

The police/cps would only be bound to move forward such a complaint if a reasonable person would not expect such an offence to happen during a game.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Just because you have set up a false dichotomy, doesnt make it true.

The police/cps would only be bound to move forward such a complaint if a reasonable person would not expect such an offence to happen during a game.'"

Who told you that, and why did you believe them? There are lots of scenarios where one might reasonably expect a crime to occur but it does not relieve the police or the CPS from their duties to follow it up. The assault Flower committed occurred in the context of he himself being assaulted, albeit to a lesser degree. There is no way any investigation could turn a blind eye to that.

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