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| I think this whole thing is snowballing very quickly and whilst I in no way condone Ben Flower smacking a man when he was star fished on the floor, it is not the worst thing that has ever happened in a rugby match and the whole thing happened so quickly it was probably over before the guy had time to think about what he was doing. I think all these comments about banning him for life etc are out of order. I the heat of the moment in a big game big, players get themselves all revved up and the red mist decends. I do think the RFL need to be strong on the issue though, he should be banned 8 - 12 matches and a proper fine not this £300 bollox that they seem to impose again and again. But I imagine that the morons at Red Hall will find a way to make themselves look more stupid than they already are (He will probably get off as sending off sufficient on the basis that other players have thrown punches this season and not even been sin binned)
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Tone the bias down FFS.'"
...followed by...
Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Flower has a long history of attacks on halfbacks, as Nathan Brown pointed out on the pitch after the game when interviewed by Tanya Arnold. In defense of him, he's just a victim of Wigan's questionable culture. He's thick and unable to cope with the pressure of facing Saints in a big derby, but if Wane didn't encourage his players to be reckless, perhaps they wouldn't be?
Wigan as a club has let itself down since Maguire got the Wigan job. He brought the questionable tactics, the 'win at all costs' mentality that includes things like the 'snap the pole' motivational posters and initiatives like attacking the knee joints of players held in the tackle and Wane has continued it.
It is simply unbelievable that the RFL haven't acted on the Sky documentary. He's on video telling his players to be reckless and knock players out. Surely, if you take the Cherry and White specs off for a moment, you can see what is wrong with this whole situation?'"

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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"...followed by...
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You really can't see it can you?
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| Quote roversmad="roversmad"You really can't see it can you?'"
See what? Sadsack's inane ramblings?
I've explained myself quite clearly on here several times. If you have a post of mine you disagree with, point it out. Don't just hijack a post from possibly the lamest troll on RLFans.
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"See what? Sadsack's inane ramblings?
I've explained myself quite clearly on here several times. If you have a post of mine you disagree with, point it out. Don't just hijack a post from possibly the lamest troll on RLFans.'"
I'm right. You can't argue with it can you? You've seen the documentary I take it? You've seen how Wane spoke before the GF and you've seen what Flower did. RL is a sport where you need to be physical and aggressive to be successful, but Wigan are taking it too far, crossing the line of morality and respect for the opposition that is the very core of our sport.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Tone the bias down FFS. Flower has a long history of attacks on halfbacks, as Nathan Brown pointed out on the pitch after the game when interviewed by Tanya Arnold. In defense of him, he's just a victim of Wigan's questionable culture. He's thick and unable to cope with the pressure of facing Saints in a big derby, but if Wane didn't encourage his players to be reckless, perhaps they wouldn't be?
Wigan as a club has let itself down since Maguire got the Wigan job. He brought the questionable tactics, the 'win at all costs' mentality that includes things like the 'snap the pole' motivational posters and initiatives like attacking the knee joints of players held in the tackle and Wane has continued it.
It is simply unbelievable that the RFL haven't acted on the Sky documentary. He's on video telling his players to be reckless and knock players out. Surely, if you take the Cherry and White specs off for a moment, you can see what is wrong with this whole situation?'"
Absolutely spot on. Horrible ethos and tactics, delighted they're empty-handed as their reward this year.
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| I will guess with an 8 game ban and the customary £300 fine.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"I'm right. You can't argue with it can you? You've seen the documentary I take it? You've seen how Wane spoke before the GF and you've seen what Flower did. RL is a sport where you need to be physical and aggressive to be successful, but Wigan are taking it too far, crossing the line of morality and respect for the opposition that is the very core of our sport.'"
Yes, I can. I've already responded to someone else with a suspect IQ who took Wane's comments literally. I'll paste it below:
It's nothing more than you'll hear in RL dressing rooms every week, talk to hype the team up, get their aggression and intensity going, to dominate physically. And it's a lot milder than some dressing rooms I've been in.
If you think they actually then go out and try to knock people out, you're an idiot, pure and simple.
Tell you what, given that this highly drilled Wigan team are apparently being coached to 'knock people out', they're not doing a very good job. One or two a year at best. Need to up their game.
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Quote headhunter="headhunter"For the people who were questioning my still images of Hohaia's attack on Flower last night:
https://vine.co/v/OAjJjZ0KjTz'"
That video shows beyond a reasonable doubt that Lancelot Hohaia deserved a red card. That said Benjamin Flower deserves a one year ban for his unspeakable cruelty.
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Quote headhunter="headhunter"For the people who were questioning my still images of Hohaia's attack on Flower last night:
https://vine.co/v/OAjJjZ0KjTz'"
That video shows beyond a reasonable doubt that Lancelot Hohaia deserved a red card. That said Benjamin Flower deserves a one year ban for his unspeakable cruelty.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"I'm right. You can't argue with it can you? You've seen the documentary I take it? You've seen how Wane spoke before the GF and you've seen what Flower did. RL is a sport where you need to be physical and aggressive to be successful, but Wigan are taking it too far, crossing the line of morality and respect for the opposition that is the very core of our sport.'"
You are absolutely right.
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