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| When agreeing to take part in a contact sport you accept that there may be a certain level of physical contact that isn't accepted off the pitch.
A tackle is assault if performed off the pitch. The "it's illegal off the pitch so anything is fine on it" line isn't true. If a player used a firearm or other kind of weapon against another player on the pitch that wouldn't be left solely to the RFL. It would be taken up by police.
There is no hard and fast line that can be easily stated to describe what is acceptable and what isnt but we all generally know it when we see it. The Flower incident is borderline.
I'm not keen on police being involved, especially at pro level, but I wouldn't blame Hohaia if he did want to take it further.
You've to accept being tackled, you've to accept verbal abuse, you've to accept high tackles, punches and fights might happen to you on the rugby pitch. But anything much beyond that is a grey area that comes down to the individual. If he wants to take it further then it's up to him, as anything beyond those things isn't normal, accepted behaviour in a contact sport.
That's for pro level by the way, at amateur level it should be much, much stricter. As should the RL punishments which are usually pretty pathetic at amateur level.
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| Quote: Bal "They would have, yes. But he didn't so that is somewhat mute. If a player punched another player in any game and they complained to the police they would have to look at it. Its potentially common assault.'" i dont believe they would. A punch is a well established part of the game (rightly or wrongly) and there is an expectation of its possibility. What Flower did is entirely different.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "i dont believe they would. A punch is a well established part of the game (rightly or wrongly) and there is an expectation of its possibility. What Flower did is entirely different.'"
I'm not saying the complaint would get anywhere. They would take the nature of the sport, and its governing body into account and likely dismiss it.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "i dont believe they would. A punch is a well established part of the game (rightly or wrongly) and there is an expectation of its possibility. What Flower did is entirely different.'"
A punch is a well established [itransgression[/i. That isn't the same as it being a part of the game. Either the police are duty bound to investigate a complaint where an assault has occurred or they are not. They could not, without any impropriety, investigate Flower without investigating Hohaia.
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "A punch is a well established [itransgression[/i. That isn't the same as it being a part of the game. Either the police are duty bound to investigate a complaint where an assault has occurred or they are not. They could not, without any impropriety, investigate Flower without investigating Hohaia.'"
Just because you have set up a false dichotomy, doesnt make it true.
The police/cps would only be bound to move forward such a complaint if a reasonable person would not expect such an offence to happen during a game.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Just because you have set up a false dichotomy, doesnt make it true.
The police/cps would only be bound to move forward such a complaint if a reasonable person would not expect such an offence to happen during a game.'"
Who told you that, and why did you believe them? There are lots of scenarios where one might reasonably expect a crime to occur but it does not relieve the police or the CPS from their duties to follow it up. The assault Flower committed occurred in the context of he himself being assaulted, albeit to a lesser degree. There is no way any investigation could turn a blind eye to that.
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