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| As a relatively unbiased observer:
Flower hit Hohia. Not much in it, but thats where it should have ended.
Hohia elbowed Flower. Bad form and worth a penalty.
Flower threw a blindside punch that knocked Hohia out. Nasty! In Oz these days the punch is an automatic sin bin and it was at least worth that. Probably worth a send off and a week or two.
Flower punches unconscious man on the ground. Complete dog act. No excuses.
If performance enhancing drugs are worth up to two years he should get at least that. And feel damn lucky the cops aren't knocking on his door.
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| just watched it again, he should be on remand and waiting for a magistrate, 2 years minimum, common assault, GBH, ABH whatever else the Police can think of. If any Wigan fan can defend him that's just plain odd.
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| Ian Lenagan has made the worse deal, not just for Wigan but for rugby league in general, by signing Shaun Wane on for another three years. When you put together Wanes comments during the world club challenge documentary, his comments about his family hating Saints prior to the grand final and that Ben Flower punch in the Grand Final, it does not look pretty at all.
Had a commentator said the things Wane said, they should lose their job. However Phil Clarke, ironically also from Wigan, had said similar things about Danny McGuire in the past and got away with it. That same commentator has also defended Ben Flower.
Had a Wigan fan punched an unconscious St Helens fan in the stand that Wiganer would probably be facing years from ever being allowed in a rugby league ground? Not Ben Flower though who will most likely be given better treatment than what Gareth Hock was ever given by the Wigan club.
Then of course the Wigan Brigantes were banned from the stands but it seems Wigan players are allowed to show like-to-like behavior on the pitch. The club took a long while to sort that off-field nasty element out and hopefully they will spend the off season sorting out the other nasty elements I’ve wrote about.
Ian Lenagan would get rid of Wane as soon as possible if he had any integrity left.
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| Last week Sam Burgess broke his cheekbone and eye socket in the first minute and played on to win mom.
This week Ben Flower straddled an already knocked out half back that's half the size of him to line up a punch. Getting sent off in the sent second minute.
One's a hard man forward the other's a pussy hole.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"just watched it again, he should be on remand and waiting for a magistrate, 2 years minimum, common assault, GBH, ABH whatever else the Police can think of. If any Wigan fan can defend him that's just plain odd.'"
In a sea of hysteric posts you've managed to raise the bar. Well done sir!
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| Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"Flower obviously won't go to prison. Hohia would be well within his rights to press charges but he won't. And even if he did he won't serve time for something that happened in the heat of battle on a rugby pitch in a professional game.
However it isn't overreacting to say he could have killed him. People have been killed by a lot less. Frankly there's not many things more dangerous that he could have done. I'm just glad it was more of a jab than a haymaker otherwise it really could have been nasty.'"
Hardly a 'jab'. He pulled his arm back.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Blimey. That's a bit harsh isn't it. You can't justify an attack that could easily have killed a player because he obstructed a player chasing a kick.
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Some Wigan fans probably can. After all some Wigan fans wanted Danny McGuire's career to be over due to an obstruction.
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| Think Clarkes comment in commentary have been over looked a lot he was desperately trying to somehow justify it.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Utterly disgraceful. The stuff before it, lets face it Wigan fans was nothing. The swinging arm by Flower on Hohaia that started it was a penalty, nothing more. The push, and it was a pushing motion, by Hohaia on Flower was another penalty worthy incident. The punch from Flower was worthy of a red these days under the new rules, but would probably have been excused were it not for the final hit.
That was utterly shocking and he really should be facing criminal charges as well as a massive ban. Cowardly doesn't go far enough, and again very disappointing to see Wane supporting him, but would expect nothing less.'"
I think Wane may regret that. If I was controlling the club I'd dismiss Flower and Wane too if he wishes to stand by his man.
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"Steve Bunce @bigdaddybunce
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I'm assuming that Ben Flower likes prison food - he has to be nicked for that assault. That's a UFC inspired second punch, savage.
Andrew Voss @AndrewVossy
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Letting fans in the UK know, Australians waking up now to see Ben Flower's punch in the sport headlines.No tries ..just the act of thuggery.
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ENGLAND’S rugby league showpiece match has been marred by one of the most sickening punches ever seen on a sporting field.
Will it bring fans in , will it help the game to expand, will it attract sponsors.
RL where you can beat up unconscious opponents live on TV in a cup final..
Even events off the pitch no matter how bad do not bring the game into dispute as much as this.'"
I think for those reason Flower will need to be sacked or given a life ban. The sport cannot afford that. No sport can. As I said last night - it has set the game back years.
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