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I know a lot about how bulls are operating at the minute and they have just let the majority of the squad go, there will only be 2 of that 24 man squad who get near making it to 1st grade. Homegrown players from bradford area who are quality players are getting ditched and they will come back to bite us i am sure, they are either ditching rugby then or going to another club. Now the bulls are just getting fresh batches of players in every year and most are from leeds or rochdale. Bulls need to retain more youth like wigan, we just let everyone go

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On the 8th day, God created Rugby League On the 9th day, Satan created Salford. A battle ensued through to to late on the 12th day. A few hours later, a truce, and on the final stroke of midnight, Code 13 was created... Heaven and Hell combined forces and delivered Salford Red Devils...a legacy is born!!!!!:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_71248.jpg



Quote: bramleyrhino "It's actually when you start going down the table - to the likes of Salford, Bradford and the Hull clubs - that you see the sort of activity you describe.'"


A bit cruel on Salford when you consider that in the lead up to Marwan taking over the club, the entire club from top to bottom had already started to disband, with many 1st team players and younger ones already having either been sold off in previous months or told to find alternative clubs as the future was looking like certain oblivion...

By the time Marwan concluded the deal, Salford had missed the chance to enter academy for SL fixtures, so academy side was up against lesser opposition last term and even though our set up was slated by RFL, walked the competition and subsequent grand final..

As for going out and spending loads on players...what else were we to do from what was inherited by Marwan ffs

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Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "U16, U19 & U23 (with 3 overage allowed) and get rid of the stupid dual reg thing is the way forward so well done to the championship clubs IMO.'"


ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON.

Problem is with clubs like Leeds.

They are happy to use and abuse Hunslet as, effectively, their 'A' team. Hence Barry Eaton, wearing his Leeds Rhinos shirt, sitting next to Brian McDermott at Leeds' matches.

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Quote: Mr Churchill "ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON.

Problem is with clubs like Leeds.

They are happy to use and abuse Hunslet as, effectively, their 'A' team. Hence Barry Eaton, wearing his Leeds Rhinos shirt, sitting next to Brian McDermott at Leeds' matches.'"

Use and abuse?
If it weren't for Leeds then Hunslet would've gone out of existence. Barry Eaton is paid by Leeds for his services and Hunslet benefit hugely from their relationship with Leeds including use of training facilities, use of Leeds backroom staff, and of course use of some of Leeds players.

How is improving another club bad for the game? It's better for Hunslet and it's better for Leeds players as they're playing at a much higher standard than an u23's or any other defined age group.

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Quote: Him "Use and abuse?
If it weren't for Leeds then Hunslet would've gone out of existence. Barry Eaton is paid by Leeds for his services and Hunslet benefit hugely from their relationship with Leeds including use of training facilities, use of Leeds backroom staff, and of course use of some of Leeds players.

How is improving another club bad for the game? It's better for Hunslet and it's better for Leeds players as they're playing at a much higher standard than an u23's or any other defined age group.'"


To be honest if I were a fan of a championship club I would hate the dual reg thing. It is beginnings of turning them into a feeder club rather than a club in their own right. There is a loan system if SL clubs want to send youngsters out for a season.

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Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "To be honest if I were a fan of a championship club I would hate the dual reg thing. It is beginnings of turning them into a feeder club rather than a club in their own right. There is a loan system if SL clubs want to send youngsters out for a season.'"

I can understand that view. But no-one forces a Championship club to use dual reg. And it certainly does not amount to using and abusing the Championship club who are there by choice. And certainly not in the case of Leeds & Hunslet.

As for dual reg v loan. The problem is that the loan system isn't flexible enough for SL clubs that have limited squads and high injuries. An SL club usually has a first team squad of 25 players. At times this season clubs have had 9/10/11 players out injured and players playing when they probably shouldn't. So have needed to go beyond that 25 man squad.

So do you put your best young players out on loan for the season? If you recall them from loan that's it done, you'd have to renegotiate another loan with the club or another one when you don't need them in your first team anymore or put them back in your u19's. Or you leave them at the loan club and play an inferior player from your u19's who probably isn't ready for it yet, not having played against adults much.

Neither is a good option. Recalling them, if it's only for a handful of games, hurts their development and hurts the loan club. Leaving them hurts your own club.

Basically I think we need a form of dual reg. We can't afford a full, open age reserves team. It's just too expensive, and I firmly believe the NRL system is their biggest advantage over us. Whether the DR is in exactly the form it's in now is debate able. I'm sure there's a way forward that can provide some certainty for the Championship club but also allows the SL club access to their players when they need them.
Maybe a guarantee where the SL club can only use the dual reg'd player a max number of times in the season or where they're definitely available to the Champ club for a minimum number of games?

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