If you could pick your ideal England team. Coaches and then a 24 man squad. Apologise if there is already another thread.

Head coach: Shaun Wane
Assistant coach: James Lowes
Backs Coach: Daryl Powell
Forwards Coach: Paul Anderson
Kicking Coach: Paul Deacon

1 Sam Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Watkins
4 Reed
5 Hall
6 Widdop
7 M.Smith
8 Graham
9 Mcclorum
10 G.Burgess
11 Westwood
12 Ferres
13 O Loughlin
14 Clark
15 Hill
16 Whitehead
17 Taylor
18 Walmsley
19 T.Briscoe
20 Ratchford
21 Hardaker
22 Farrell
23 Shenton
24 Bateman

Makinson - stand by
sarginson - stand by
roby - stand by

Ridiculous decision if O'Loughlin gets picked over Westerman.

want to make a few points before I state the team I'd go with.

Sean O'loughlin is the best 13 in the world. Personally though I hope he makes himself unavailable so he get a full off season to get back fit.

To me it seems you can only have 1 of Clark or Roby as they're both effective with quick play of the balls and using their speed around the ruck.

We need to play people where they play for their clubs.

You need 1 halfback who's an organiser and kicker and another who's got the ability to take the line on.

I wouldn't pick Sinfield because of his age, we need to be building for the next World Cup.

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Reed/Shenton
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Smith
8. Graham
9. Mcilorum
10. G Burgess
11. Farrell
12. Whitehead
13. Ablett

14. Clark
15. Taylor
16. Bateman
17. Hill

18. T. Burgess
19. J. Burgess
20. Brown
21. Reed/Shenton
22. Hardaker
23. Ferres
24. Roby

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Shenton
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Sneyd
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. G Burgess
11. Ferres
12. Whitehead
13. Westerman

14. Clark
15. Taylor
16. Westwood
17. Hill

18. T. Burgess
19. Walmsley
20. Sinfield
21. Reed
22. Hardaker
23. Ratchford
24. Ablett

Picking the leagues best 13 and one of the worlds best forwards could never be seen as ridiculous.

Form is temporary and class is permanent and all that. He's had injury issues but O'Loughlin has still be exceptional when he's played and is England's most important forward (along with Graham) now that Sam Burgess isn't available. His performances in the World Cup after an even worse campaign in terms of injuries was exceptional.

There's probably room for them both and it's probably Irrelevant because I think Lockers will pull out but if you choose between them both there's only one winner and by a wide margin.

Westerman got married yesterday. Thought it was an odd time to do it, unless he has had the call that he will be in the touring squad hence cant have his wedding at the end of the season.

or, this week could have been booked all long.........