I can understand why Leeds fans are so devastated after that Wembley try.

So much so that he was called up to represent his country against Australia, no less.

No doubt he got so bored of standing around watching his overweight comrades laying all over the ball or kicking it into touch every 2 minutes that he lost interest?

Welcome back Joel!

he was thrust into the England team on the back of being a big money convert and was proved to be way out of his depth at that level.however, he is not the first and wont be the last to go through that experience.

I suppose he made a better fist of it than others have and he comes back to SL with a few good years left ahead of him (providing hes the same player that left) and a few more quid in his pocket so I doubt he has regrets.

go to the saracens forum and look at posts before his call up to England and before his Injury they was loving his performances and offloads. To say he failed is just utter turd, Im sure some would say Ashton was a flop in union if he was ever to return.

I said he made a fist of it,which he clearly did at club level.on the international stage however, he fell woefully short.go read the reports and summarisations.

TBH I couldnt give a tosh whether he made it or not for the rah rah international side and am glad to see him back just hope he is the same player.

Not cutting it at international level doesn't mean he flopped in union (not implied at you), and look at the other factor that his inside centre was billy twelvetrees, i don't think SBW would look good playing outside of him.

Under no circumstances can people say he flopped he worked his way into the 1st team at Saracens and the England set up, he played the 1st year in reserves.

Im just hoping he still has those rugby league instincts like line speed, not tackling flatfooted, running angles and hitting holes.

Absolutely gutted that Wigan have signed an injured Union flop and Leeds only have Kallum Watkins and Joel Moon.

Hell, even our 3rd choice centres are better than that turnstyle.

Ermmm, incase you didn't know, Joel is a 2nd row!

Union flop is brilliant as well. People who don't watch union shouldn't comment on it. He was an absolute revolution when he came into the team. Then he missed some of the last year injured, the only reason he was out of the england team.

so much so they had to play Burrell at 13 who had never played there before when Joel got injured as he was there number 1 for that spot! So much of a flop that all that kept him out of the england team was an ill-timed injury. When the RL world cup was on he was playing for England in the autumn internationals then he got injured and missed the 6N.

But feel free to comment on a sport you clearly have no grasp of whatsoever!

You're right, I've never actually managed to watch more than 10 minutes of a union game and even then it's just to laugh at the "skills" on offer.

The picture below has a big clue, if it allows me to post it. are you old enough to remember the try he scored against in you in the challenge cup final, you know one of the greatest try's scored at Wembley? who was the centre that day?

And that is fine, you are able to have an opinion.

But don't speak as if you have the slightest clue about anything to do with Union, because to be perfectly honest you are making yourself look like a fool!

Ps who cares about Kallum Watkins and Joel Moon, we have O'Loughlin and he is miles better.
That is pretty much the extent of your argument.