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| Quote loiner81="loiner81"Sorry but[i[u you really are a sad, one eyed moron.[/u[/i
Instead of diving in and demanding a player's head on a plate (again) how about waiting to see what happens, what the RFL, the club and the player has to say?
The lynch mob mentality of many in this country right now is frightening.'"
Resorting to insults now? I thought I was the only bad guy 
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| Does anybody have any audio to go with the clip to support the many potentially libelous accusations that have been published, un-moderated on here?
Why is everyone so certain they know what he said? Because of what they think they see?
Has anybody ever heard of the McGurk effect?
[urlhttp://youtu.be/G-lN8vWm3m0[/url
If the potentially libelous allegations contained in this thread are proven to be true after proper investigation I hope the RFL take severe action. However, at the moment, I see a lot of indignant people jumping to massive conclusions and making fools of themselves.
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| As I said, I watched it today, it looks and sounds to me like he says fanny to monaghan
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| Quote Odem="Odem"Resorting to insults now? I thought I was the only bad guy
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Don't know whether you're a bad guy, probably not, but you're clearly very bitter, blinkered and not very bright.
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| Quote Odem="Odem"I'm amazed people are try to excuse it with 'it wasn't at the ref', 'child isn't gay' and 'all players do it'.
Which of those excuses make that acceptable. People like Him earlier in this thread are just embarrassing because they are sticking to their judgement on this issue which is a disgrace to RL fans.
I don't care who it was said to, why he said it, the tension of the moment, I don't care if childs is gay. This abuse is wrong.
What happens when an 11 year old calls the ref a fag at a school game?
The people defending these actions need to have a look at themselves. Would they accept racism? Where is the line drawn? What if their own son said it on a field? What if their friend is gay and someone says these words in a pub?'"
In other words nothing is ever said. Players will breathe and exhale but nothing else. They will not engage in conversation on the field in fear of saying something derogatory. What a load of bollax. Sorry, never thought of those with no testicles. Shame on me.
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"As I said, I watched it today, it looks and sounds to me like he says fanny to monaghan'"
Could very easily be the case.
Will the Wiganer on a witch-hunt publishing potentially libelous accusations acknowledge that could be the case or is he certain he knows what Zak said and who he said it to?
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| Quote Him="Him":CLAP:
Pretty much my view too.
I'd also add (though it probably takes the discussion into more of an abstract one), and this is a genuine question to people on here - what would your view be if a player called another player "an effing woman"?'"
Exactly what I'm getting at.
Rugby players (and most blokes in general) give each other grief, whether it be light hearted banter or in the heat of the action in sports - all sorts of 'descriptive' terms are used, yet we only get the BS outrage when it's certain insults, and it's only the ones that are seen as being 'inclusive'... I suppose all those who are outraged have never called someone fat, ugly, ginger, 4 eyed, , inbred etc etc etc....
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| Quote loiner81="loiner81"Don't know whether you're a bad guy, probably not, but you're clearly very bitter, blinkered and not very bright.'"
I'm not bitter, I have nothing against Zac in general and although Leeds are not my favourite team I would say the same if it was Marc Sneyd, Kevin Brown or Travis Burns. Not very bright? I have a first class honours degree... Does that count 
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| Quote Odem="Odem"
The people defending these actions need to have a look at themselves. Would they accept racism? Where is the line drawn? What if their own son said it on a field? What if their friend is gay and someone says these words in a pub?'"
I think you are actually showing more ignorance here than anyone using the term fag! The majority of the gay community would be more offended that you think they'd be that precious over a rugby player calling someone a fag in the heat of the game.
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| Quote Odem="Odem"I'm not bitter, I have nothing against Zac in general and although Leeds are not my favourite team I would say the same if it was Marc Sneyd, Kevin Brown or Travis Burns. Not very bright? I have a first class honours degree... Does that count
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Not in court.
There is no clear evidence that anything has happened. (Who Hardaker was addressing, the words he used.)
If anything untoward was said, then it's lucky that there are people around to go through video tapes frame by frame and froth on the internet to ensure something unsavoury that would never have been noticed can receive as much exposure as possible. Which achieves what, exactly?
Hopefully in the future, all Rugby League players will be miked up and broadcast on separate feeds just so you can concentrate on what's said between them rather than how they play.
Perhaps we could extend that coverage to the stand. In which case Section 4 of the Public Order Act is the one you want to check out, given your previous.
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| Before the camera went on him he said "your decisions are a disgrace Mr Child. I need a......" That is when it cut to him and he said F...ing Fag........
If he is guilty he should be given a hefty punishment. He definitely said it but depends who to.
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