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so after all the squawking from a few posters a couple months ago regarding Saracens filling Wembley and how its a disaster when Rugby league discounts tickets it now seems both codes are in the same boat.

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Interesting that a semi final against one of the best teams in Europe struggles to sell and this is being blamed on no discounted tickets.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Saracens are a really well run rugby club and the guys there know what is necessary to take their club and sport to the next level.

I saw an interview with Edward Griffiths their CEO about a minimum salary cap, relegation, and how it was important to create the best product and its clear why their crowd of 27k is a disaster, whereas Bradford getting less than 3k in our premier cup competition is glossed over. Some leaders are prepared to take the tough decisions to meet tough goals, some simply take the decisions their power base wants and find excuses.

There is no point in us laughing at Saracens getting 27k in their semi final, we will be lucky if our 4 quarter finals get that in total.'"
I'd argue strongly that they are not a well run club at all.

They lose millions and millions every single year - iirc it was around £5m last year. Look at the likes of Leicester and Northampton as well run clubs, not just somebody who can spend money that they are not getting in.

Considering their higher levels of central funding, the fact that fans will pay higher ticket prices, and sponsorship is pretty high, they should not be losing that level of money.

They can do plenty of nice things if they have somebody prepared to waste millions of pounds a year, but that in no way makes them a well run Rugby Union club.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "You're right, The morons we see on here trying to do the game down will jump on things like this. But fsk em. They showed their true colours twisting and turning when the RLWC was a success, we saw people trying to change some very basic laws of mathematics to make the numbers fit their agendas. People who decided that to make an average you dont need to divide the sum by the number, people literally just making up attendances because it didnt their agenda. You arent going to change their mind through logic or sense. It is safe to just ignore them.

We dont need to use RU to prove anything to them, we can just look to what we can learn from the other code to help us.'"

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Quote: Dave T "I'd argue strongly that they are not a well run club at all.

They lose millions and millions every single year - iirc it was around £5m last year. Look at the likes of Leicester and Northampton as well run clubs, not just somebody who can spend money that they are not getting in.

Considering their higher levels of central funding, the fact that fans will pay higher ticket prices, and sponsorship is pretty high, they should not be losing that level of money.

They can do plenty of nice things if they have somebody prepared to waste millions of pounds a year, but that in no way makes them a well run Rugby Union club.'"


You have to spend money to make money and fortunately for Saracens they have it. They are building something very special at saracens you just have to look at the path of the club in the past 7 years. I would be surprised if they lose money this year if they do the double.

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Investment costs money, people are far too hung up on an isolated P+L figure. They have invested in the Barnet Copthall and are getting £8m for naming rights, they have affiliated clubs in Abu Dhabi, Kuala Lumpur, Moscow, Nairobi, Sao Paulo and Tonga, and are creating one at the moment in Romania.

Running a successful business is about more than turning over a profit in any given year.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Investment costs money, people are far too hung up on an isolated P+L figure. They have invested in the Barnet Copthall and are getting £8m for naming rights, they have affiliated clubs in Abu Dhabi, Kuala Lumpur, Moscow, Nairobi, Sao Paulo and Tonga, and are creating one at the moment in Romania.

Running a successful business is about more than turning over a profit in any given year.'"



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