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| Quote Dally="Dally"I assume the debate about the DG is tongue-in-cheek as there can be no doubt whatsoever that it went in.
The ref messed up and there needs to be an enquiry as to why (fatigue?) and more particularly why the video ref wasn't used when the players reacted BEFORE the decision as though it was a DG and then after too?'"
Have you and others not thought that the reason he didn't go to the video referee was because Phil was confident that the ball missed the goal.
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| cant believe what i have read about the mcgillvary/walsh incident !
jerry tackled walsh, walsh lost the ball in contact on the ground, jerry appealed for a knock which i could see sat directly across from the tackle...and got up with his arms out then got shoved by walsh
surley this is pen to giants...but no... as usual it goes against us
he didnt hold him down at all
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| The Matthew Ridge last minute drop goal attempt in the RLWC semi final of 1995 against Australia at the same venue was more clear cut.
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| When those who say it definately went over are saying this, have they watched it from both sides. How anyone can be definate when 2 different perspectives give 2 different answers is beyond me.
Also the drop goal would not have ensured the win. Dropping someone on their head will ensure getting sent off.
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| Quote The_smiling_ref="The_smiling_ref"Have you and others not thought that the reason he didn't go to the video referee was because Phil was confident that the ball missed the goal.'"
Why was he "confident" when 25 players and 7,150 spectators thought it was in? Was he tired?
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"All pictures from one side and the angle on the Saints speccies would suggest that there is an angle at play here.'"
There is a limit to the tricks angles can play. A ball cannot start inside the post, continue on a trajectory inside the posts, not deviate from that path, and it have not gone through the posts regardless of what angle it is viewed from.
The problem with those images is a question of depth, we dont know whether the ball has passed, is passing or is to pass the try line. That isnt a problem on the whole video because we have many reference points to judge the depth.
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| Apologies if this has already been asked, but I'm too lazy to read 18 pages. Why don't we insist on taller posts? In RU (for obvious reasons) they're bloomin' massive and I remember ones of similar height in RL, at least much of the time.
To me it looked a clear 1 point from 1 view, and not so clear from the other (the other being from the same side the ref was viewing). Horrible call for the ref to have to make. He may have got it wrong, but he's got a pretty good excuse if so.
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| Quote marvwoodburn="marvwoodburn"Fair Enough.
The pen could go either way for me though TBH, and its not really worth the aggro but FWIW Hudds are going for the ball and Walsh nearly lost control at no point does the player "hold him down", and at no point does Walsh attempt to "get up" he is clawing for the ball which is between his legs and he is hardly in control of, keeping the ball is Lewis' priority, not getting up. I thought Lewis was out of order, you can defend him all you like it won't change my mind, but it will make you look a one eyed supporter.
Your obviously a St's fan so i think i will take my balanced neutral view over your ridiculously one sided one any day.'"
Give over you worm. A one eyed supporter ? It was a penalty all day long to Saints and the only reason this is up for debate is because the ref took to long making the decision and the linesman gives it. Jermaine is on top of Walsh claiming for the knock on (which is holding down).
The only major decision he got wrong was the Brough drop goal.
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| Quote RLBandit="RLBandit"Apologies if this has already been asked, but I'm too lazy to read 18 pages. Why don't we insist on taller posts? In RU (for obvious reasons) they're bloomin' massive and I remember ones of similar height in RL, at least much of the time.
To me it looked a clear 1 point from 1 view, and not so clear from the other (the other being from the same side the ref was viewing). Horrible call for the ref to have to make. He may have got it wrong, but he's got a pretty good excuse if so.'"
Maybe something to do RL being played on soccer grounds. It seems the shared stadiums have smaller posts. Probably for ease of building, dismantling and storage.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Why was he "confident" when 25 players and 7,150 spectators thought it was in? Was he tired?'"
Given this thread, I dont think there were 7,150 supporters who thought it were in. Even if it were unanimous, the lack of understanding of the rules shown in this thread would still cast doubt over the decision!
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