FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Golden ticket???
204 posts in 15 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach855No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2016Jun 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



SmokeyTA of course it is possible but I don't think even you believe it to be happening in 2014 in Super League.

So this whole discussion is rather pointless.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach20628
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2016Aug 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
44480_1390845286.jpg
It's been fun.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44480.jpg



If the team isn't liable for any debt then seriously what's the problem?

RankPostsTeam
Moderator36786
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024May 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6505_1460484023.jpg
[i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm It said in the cards, we lost our souls to the Nameless One[/i:10za56ci]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6505.jpg

Moderator


Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Whilst I dread bringing this back up, saints have released a statement regarding the marquee exemption vote:

I like the cut of his jib.

Doubt he'll be getting a Christmas card from KashKow this year though.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5214No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
27476.gif
:CROWN: I am the hash browns of rlfans :CROWN::27476.gif



Quote: Wire Yed "If the team isn't liable for any debt then seriously what's the problem?'"


Because, whether the club is liable or not, there are better things for the money to be put towards at this point in time? First and foremost, a proper reserves competition!

Him
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member14970No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2021Nov 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2244_1299706258.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_2244.jpg



Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Because, whether the club is liable or not, there are better things for the money to be put towards at this point in time? First and foremost, a proper reserves competition!'"

Yep. A proper reserves comp. Training and pitch facilities for those reserves and academy (something often overlooked). But also, vitally, youth and junior development beyond the reserves and Academy. Since it's now the responsibility of the clubs. I bet it doesn't get funded to anywhere near where it should. Most clubs seem to think sending a couple of players to an amateur club a couple of times a year is junior development.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
47035_1386433761.gif
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif



I've posted this on the Saints Forum, but I'll curse you all with it too.

I get what both people are driving at.

Koukash wants to increase big names in the league.
Mac wants to help the national side by giving allowances for club grown players.
The Cap wants to stop clubs spending beyond their own means.

In a way they all pull in differing directions. Now I'm not sure what the Marquee descriptor is and that does need to be nailed down. Otherwise it's just more money for some average Joe.

But I could see a way to combine all 3 elements.

1. Protect clubs fiances with a cap
2. Allow 'Marquee' signings
3. Keep clubs focused on the long term of player development for international games

Whilst Big Mac's proposal is laudable it does hand an advantage to SL incumbents. They have had more time to hold their own players. Naturally clubs lower down will have had pressure from above clubs to sell on their players. So any new club to the league would be at a disadvantage for a long period and may not survive long enough to get to a point where their junior set up matches long standing clubs.

I would not allow any player to be completely exempt from the cap. But newer entrants to the league could have say a higher Marquee player ratio.

Set the Salary cap at £2million.

Your Wigans/Saints/Leeds would have the ability to have 1 Marquee player only cost £100,000 on the club accounts. They would also be allowed to have say up to 10 club grown players cost again only £100,000 on the accounts.

This encourages teams to develop their own players.

However brand new entrants to the league would be allowed say 3 - 4 Marquee players again only costing £100,000 on the club cap as it is unlikely they would have 10 academy players at the very top standard on entry to the league.

But their Marquee allowance would drop by one player every 3 years. So by year 10, they would be at the same place as other mature clubs, developing their own players and not just buying in.

Going to either extreme gives too much to short termism or too much favour to the incumbents in the market place.

However, I still maintain that the overall club cap should be limited to £2million and any additional payment to a Marquee player or an academy grown player that goes over this £2million figure would need to come from outside the club accounts. Whether that be sponsorship, or owner payments.

So Koukash could have 3 marquee players currently. The Salford club would pay £100,000 of their wages, the rest comes from elsewhere. But the Salford club could not pay over £2million in total for the squad. In another 3 years they would be down to 2 marquee players, then 1 three years after that.
In the mean time they would need to build up their own academy players to replace these marquee players.

204 posts in 15 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
204 posts in 15 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.6064453125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40719
5m
Film game
Boss Hog
5602
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63209
14m
Fixtures
Trojan Horse
11
36m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
42m
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Whino4life
497
Recent
Dual Reg
financialtim
6
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
48s
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
53s
Dual Reg
financialtim
6
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63209
1m
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
1m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
1m
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
2m
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
2m
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5572
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2588
3m
IMG Score
Bullseye
80
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
3
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Trojan Horse
11
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
279
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
499
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1251
England's Women Demolish The W..
1075
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1313
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1103
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1361
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1906
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2124
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2368
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1942
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2177
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2644
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2070
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2149
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M +11,818 ↑6580,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40719
5m
Film game
Boss Hog
5602
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63209
14m
Fixtures
Trojan Horse
11
36m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
42m
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Whino4life
497
Recent
Dual Reg
financialtim
6
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
48s
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
53s
Dual Reg
financialtim
6
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63209
1m
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
1m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
1m
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
2m
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
2m
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5572
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2588
3m
IMG Score
Bullseye
80
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
3
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Trojan Horse
11
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
279
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
499
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1251
England's Women Demolish The W..
1075
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1313
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1103
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1361
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1906
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2124
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2368
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1942
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2177
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2644
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2070
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2149


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!