Yeah, I think you're correct.

Can we expect and increase in crowds in SL2?

Can we expect a decrease???


Measuring crowds would be tricky given that some teams will have more home games than others. But in the end I suppose you could take an average per game. Assuming you can get anyone to agree what a fair average is.

Look to the RLWC threads to see a debate about averages.

Attendances for the top Championship sides should rocket !

really?

So how many games will clubs play in a league season?

SL top 8 32 if they reach GF and mid 8 30 games all up?

I can see the income of the bottom 4 SL clubs nose diving with games being played at championship clubs and presumably a pay at the gate and shared basis.

Season ticket prices will need to be cheaper as they will only be selling 11 home SL games

Great idea RFL, I suppose its one way of whittling down to SL to probably ten teams left standing within a couple of years.

I don't understand why people presume STs would be sold only for the first 11 home games (before the split). Currently season tickets are for 13 games. They could be similarly priced and count for either 13 or 14 games, with only the PO semi finals and Grand Finals/promotion qualifier being extra paid games. You'd hope so anyway, if fans are asked to pay extra for 3/4 extra games before the POs then the attendances will be similar to what they currently are in the early weeks of the top 8 POs, even in the top tier IMO.

Had another read and I am still trying to figure out how the mid 8 games work in terms of home and away fixtures. Anybody cast any light on how many home games against SL and how many home games agains championship clubs SL clubs will have?

It's 7 games so how many of them are at home for Sl clubs and how many of those home games are against other SL clubs?

The SL clubs dropping into the middle 8 will have 3 home games. Probably 2 against SL clubs and 1 against a Champs club

after reading all the fans comments on hear about the new set up it looks like half understand and half do not half like and half hate it, so lets have 12 teams in each and P/R at the end of the season because in a year or 2 that's what will happen when the crowds fall, has fans give up on it

That's what we are having, only the P&R is not automatic, it depends on the playoffs

For season ticket purposes 8 SL1 clubs will have 14 home games and 4 will have 15. The simplest solution is for everyone to sell a 14 game package and make the last game "pay on the gate" for the teams who were in the top 4 at the qualifying point.

For the top 8 SL1 clubs home fans this means they get to see 11 SL1 clubs (pre-split) plus 3 or 4 of the top 8 again (post split) - which means in theory they will see a higher quality of opposition and more intense games overall so more interest, more pay on the day fans, more away fans etc.

For the bottom 4 SL1 clubs home fans, they get to see 11 SL1 clubs (pre-split) plus 3 other games. Assuming at least 1 is against a fellow bottom 4 SL club, then they are only going to get to see 1 or 2 championship clubs at home. This is no different to now, since 2 current SL1 clubs will be playing in the Championship next year and are likely to be in that dvision after the 2015 mid-season split.

For the Championship top 4, they will get their regular rounds and then get to host SL1 clubs for probably 2 games, plus have a shot at promotion. This increases interest and revenue for all of them so I can see why they are so keen.

The target for Championship clubs is to finish 5th in the SL2 comp to get that one-off game against a SL club. In effect what SL2 does is create a final game play-off between the worst SL1 club and the best Championship club. The bonus to the championship club being that they will have had several weeks to practice and prepare against the bottom 4 SL1 clubs which should increase their chances.