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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Not surprising, but also irrelivant'"
Very relevant. Believe me, as a lad who moved south at 13 and experienced the institutionalised League hatred in even state Union-playing schools (honestly, you couldn't make some of the crap I saw up) let alone the private ones, this stuff sticks and will take at least another generation to wash out amongst southern-educated professionals, be they journalists, sponsors or whoever of influence.
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| Quote Hull Kingston Bronco="Hull Kingston Bronco"Very relevant. Believe me, as a lad who moved south at 13 and experienced the institutionalised League hatred in even state Union-playing schools (honestly, you couldn't make some of the crap I saw up) let alone the private ones, this stuff sticks and will take at least another generation to wash out amongst southern-educated professionals, be they journalists, sponsors or whoever of influence.'"
Seriously
The Guardian will write what its readers want and no amount of whining is going to change that.
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Seriously
The Guardian will write what its readers want and no amount of whining is going to change that.'"
Oh, and Nelson, the whites rule South Africa, nothing's going to change that.
And Gorbachev, the Berlin Wall's here to stay too. Nothing's going to change that either.
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| Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand"Oh, and Nelson, the whites rule South Africa, nothing's going to change that.
And Gorbachev, the Berlin Wall's here to stay too. Nothing's going to change that either.'"
It was the majority that changed those things, if you can convince the majority, change away
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| The Guardian lost is way years ago - it now panders to the not too intelligent, trustafarian, public school set. It's a crap paper. I couldn't care less what such an unrepresentative rag feels is important.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"The Guardian lost is way years ago - it now panders to the not too intelligent, trustafarian, public school set. It's a crap paper. I couldn't care less what such an unrepresentative rag feels is important.'"
spot on  ...let them write what they want, they've only 199,000 readers anyway!
Here's your Guardian readership...

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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Seriously
The Guardian will write what its readers want and no amount of whining is going to change that.'"
Again, where did you get your BBC Tv audience stats from?
As for Union being bigger than League, yeh except for:
NSW
Victoria
Qland
NT
Yorkshire
Lancashire
Cheshire
Merseyside
PNG etc etc etc
How are the S15 players coping with their pay cuts this year lol? Has S15 audience managed to get bigger that the NRL's U20's kid games yet? lol
Bring on NRL expansion when we will see RL in WA bury RU again and hopefully another NZ team to build on the RL momentum of recent years in kiwi land.
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Seriously
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Whatever matey, it's my life and I lived it. The rugby-playing state school I went to down south even banned "soccer" (as they called it) for Gods sake, you couldn't even bring your own ball in, so imagine the reaction to a lad organising some scratch League games? It wasn't the only school with that attitude. Don't underestimate the ongoing resonance of that sort of behaviour on certain segments of the population, and knock on to how our sport is treated in the media. It's how the real world works.
That's why the greater development of student RL should be a priority for the RFL, we need to get more future influencers on board. Some people's beliefs are more important than others, even if your reductionist viewpoint sees all numbers as equal and all decisions as rationally made.
(I notice you ignored my call out of your nonsense on Australia mind...)
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"Again, where did you get your BBC Tv audience stats from?'"
same twitter source that was used during the RLWC....the final was out drawn by Wales v Australia too.....
Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"As for Union being bigger than League, yeh except for:
NSW
Victoria
Qland
NT
Yorkshire
Lancashire
Cheshire
Merseyside
PNG etc etc etc
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Both sports are minority sports in
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NT
Yorkshire
Lancashire
Cheshire
Merseyside
PNG etc etc etc
hope that clears that up for you  but let's see if Union gets more than 8,000 for its games in the north in 2015...
Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"How are the S15 players coping with their pay cuts this year lol? Has S15 audience managed to get bigger that the NRL's U20's kid games yet? lol '"
How does a UK papers failure to recognise a game between England and New Zealand in its top 10 get to a debate about S15 in Australia? I take it you were ignoring South Africa and New Zealand to suit your agenda by the way....
Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"Bring on NRL expansion when we will see RL in WA bury RU again'" where has RL buried Union in Australia?
Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"and hopefully another NZ team to build on the RL momentum of recent years in kiwi land.'" Yep..we'll fill the Westpac in March but get ignored again in favour of Brisbane 2...
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| Quote Hull Kingston Bronco="Hull Kingston Bronco"Whatever matey, it's my life and I lived it. The rugby-playing state school I went to down south even banned "soccer" (as they called it) for Gods sake, you couldn't even bring your own ball in, so imagine the reaction to a lad organising some scratch League games? It wasn't the only school with that attitude. Don't underestimate the ongoing resonance of that sort of behaviour on certain segments of the population, and knock on to how our sport is treated in the media. It's how the real world works.
That's why the greater development of student RL should be a priority for the RFL, we need to get more future influencers on board. Some people's beliefs are more important than others, even if your reductionist viewpoint sees all numbers as equal and all decisions as rationally made.
(I notice you ignored my call out of your nonsense on Australia mind...)'"
all of which is a cool story bro, but has little to do with a daily paper with less than 200k readers, most of whom are middle class aspirant bleeding heart liberals who want to be seen as left wing, not counting a single moment of RL in their annual sports review top 10.
we all know how uber dominant RL is in Australia, yet the RLWC got a cursory mention there.....yet the Guardian gets its own thread here 
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