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They've only played 2 'real' tests though, England in Cardiff, and the Kiwis today. Ok they've dispatched the 4th best team in the world more than comprehensively twice but i can't say that this Aussie team ever.

I felt in 2008 they were better but just got caught out in the final. I think the Aussies put 50 past both England and NZ that year.

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Quote: Roy Haggerty "It's become a cliché - almost a reflex - of RL fans on this side of the world to make statements like "This isn't a classic Australian side", or "This is a sub-standard Kangaroos squad" when the green and golds hove into view. Usually such a statement is made in the context of trying to show just how poor the England/GB side is, because they can't even beat a weakened Roos team. I've certainly heard that this time round, and indeed certainly every tournament since the 1995 World Cup.

I'm here to say that such statements are b@llox. Anyone claiming this isn't a superb Kangaroos side is talking out of their Harris, and has no greater value than an old fella moaning that nothing's as good as Van Vollenhoven/Boston/Huddart etc.

The reason I've heard given for why this set of Aussies are "not a classic side" is because they don't have stand-out players like a Lockyer, a Lewis or a Meninga. Cobblers. The reason they don't have particularly stand-out players is because they are ALL stand-out players. It's like saying that the Louvre's collection of art is weak because none of the works stand out.

Smith, Thurston, Cronk, Inglis, Slater, Thaiday, Gallen

All that on one game - you really are a silly old windbag at times.

But hey you're a legend in your own head so how dare a mere mortal question your arrogant assumptions.

Better than us certainly but far from unbeatable, get a grip.

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Quote: vastman "All that on one game - you really are a silly old windbag at times.

But hey you're a legend in your own head so how dare a mere mortal question your arrogant assumptions.

Better than us certainly but far from unbeatable, get a grip.'"


It wasn't on one game. I explicitly referenced their performances across the whole competition.

Nor did I make any assumptions. Merely offered an opinion.

Most people on this thread have managed to offer their own opinion, either in agreement or disagreement, in a civil, rasonable manner. Like adults discussing something of interest.

You decided to just go straight for the personal insults. Nicely done. Congratulations on your contribution.

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The way this discussion has gone reminded me of a video clip from a popular video clip site.

Searching for something like "Jarryd Hayne's Freakish Chip" could bring something up.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Billy Slater, Greg Inglis and Johnathan Thurston would be rated equal to the best backs Australia has ever had (the Immortal Andrew Johns excepted).

Jarryd Hayne, having been repositioned at centre, could well turn out to be one of the best international centres Australia has ever produced (he kept Michael Jennings, Brent Tate and Josh Morris out of the team).'"


Always thought Thurston was overrated,( in an all time list) very very good but not great, my opinion has changed over this World Cup I now think he is up there with the very best, 3 rd behind Johns and sterling for me now, ahead of Langer. And he still as a few years ahead of him.

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2013
Australia conceded 4 tries all tournament....272-24.......45-4 average WINNERS

2008.
Australia conceded 3 tries in pool play (9 in total)186-50....37-8 average SECOND

2000
Australia 3 tries in pool play (11 in total)...308-58 over 6 games...51-10 average WINNERS

89-92
Australia conceded 11 tries over 5 games......214-54...... 43-11 average WINNERS

980-186..........44-8 average.

I'd say that based on the last 4 RLWC's the current champions are the most efficient with an average winning margin of 41 points and conceding only 1 try per game on average.....in reality, 5 games they conceded no tries! The 2000 side did score more points, but the 2013 side did face far more professional players from the NRL/SL representing Fiji/Ireland/USA than they did in 2000.

The depressing thing is that even with their loss in 2008, they are the most dominant force in International sport that I can think of....

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