Yes. Well done.

Yes I do get it, we finished THIRD!! If this was his first tournament I would say, yes give him time. But he has had four years! And as I have mentioned, look at his results. How can anyone say they are good. This World Cup is what we have been building up to and we have achieved third.

Mcnamra didn't swallow his pride. That would have been last year and he would have dropped chase then and put in a better more in form half back. Not allowing the MOS to play for Scotland. Maybe if Widdop and Sinfield played more in the tournament together they would have been every better! But they didn't as he kept persisting with Chase.

This was the best England squad for a long time, and we came up short. It was one of the best games of RL I've ever seen. But a semi final in front of nearly 70k at Wembley, we were always going to come out firing.

Mcnamara had done some great things with the team, but as a COACH he has achieved nothing in 8 years st Bradford. surely thats enough to convince anyone. that counts more than good ideas such as yraining camps. How many more years do we have to carry on? He's put many good things in places that he should be congratulated on. But it's time to move on. Get some fresh ideas and a new approach while building on some of the good stuff Mcnamara has done.

I would like to see the list of intersted parties before making a judgement on seeing the back of mcnamara or not.

Quite seriously, who gives a rats what he did at Bradford? It has absolutely zero relevance to his performance as England coach.

The results against Australia and NZ were 20-28 and 18-20. England could and perhaps should have won both. The end was the same, but I assume you have seen GB/England absolutely smashed by both those teams? Quite recently in fact. I've seen us get hammered in Brisbane - absolutely humiliated. With players like Peacock, Morley, Harris, Long et al in the side. This England team is light years better then the last one to come down under.

But any improvement is somehow all down to the players and nothing to do with the coach. Really? He had 'four years' to prepare? Again, really? With his full squad available on a regular basis? Even half his squad? Even half his squad being able to play regular competitive matches? Or was it more like a few catch-up sessions with players when he could get them?

As for Chase, until literally a few weeks before the WC, there seemed very little chance that Widdopp would have been fit. So as a good coach did, he would have planned with Chase and Sinfield. If you take Widdopp out of the equation, all the other names bandied about for 7 are frankly laughably poor.

You can argue - understandably - that he could have dropped Chase a week earlier (I would have agreed with that), but to suggest he should have started with Widdopp against Australia for instance is barmy.

Which brings us to the other load of tosh. Brough is responsible for not even being considered for England. McNamara didn't force him out. He was told he wasn't an automatic selection. How bizarre for a coach to do that with a player who hasn't achieved anything much at all in a ten-year career.

It was Brough who took his bat home and decided he was Scottish rather than try to force his way into the squad and then the team by delivering performances that would demand his selection. So if you want to bag anyone or Brough's absence, bag Brough, pseudo-scot-dummy-spitter extraordinaire.

I'm 100% certain McNamara has made mistakes. But blaming him for the results without looking at the quality of the performances is not fair, suggesting that a narrow-heartbreaking defeat is the same as an embarrasing hiding is ridiculous, and suggesting that Brough wasn't solely responsible for his non-selection is laughable.

Well said. I cant argue with any of that.

Yup, he picked has beings in the past and this years squad was the best by a long distance (even taking into account Crabtree & Brough's omission), we should have beaten the Australians in the first match and thus we wouldn't have had the NZ match which we should have won anyway.
HIS mistakes are the difference between winning and losing here, the quality of players we had this time around made ALL the difference in the scores compared to last time.
HTH

He hasn't had 4 years. He took over in late April 2010, his first game in June 2010.
I'd be happy for McNamara to continue, I think he's done a decent job.

Ideally I'd like to see the coach being appointed on a 4 year contract to end just after each World Cup. The RFL to review the coach and his staff's performance over the whole period and then to decide whether to offer the current coach another contract or look for alternatives.

One good performance where we narrowly get defeated by NZ and that exonerates McNamara

I wonder if we had used Ablett some of those tired forwards may not have been as tired.


How long did Burrows play?

someone said 12 minutes is that right?



Who made those decisions ?

He has got to go - for the reasons given by Roy Haggerty.

Funny he is coming over all coy and sheepish now saying he isn't really sure whether wants to continue. Is this a clever way out for him if he gets binned i.e. he jumps before he is pushed.

McNamara has been very lucky.

We have an excellent pack who nearly won the semi-final, and could have beaten the Ozzie pack no problem. Not been able to say that, since the days of Brian McTigue, Dick Huddart and Vinty Karalius.

Our front rowers of Sam Burgess and James Graham are immense.

Chris Hill and Benny Westwood also played their part as well as the other change around players like Roby.


In the recent past, it was our backs that shone.

If only our backs had 'stepped up to the plate' ?

Even as a Wigan fan, apart from Lockers, our players contingent have been average at best.

Very surprised that Sam Tomkins has done virtually nothing for a 'World class player'.

Left wondering if he isn't crocked ?

But then again, I am one who think's he is wasted at full back.

First point, of course we should look at his Bradford results. We were jumping for joy when he left. He has NO history

I cant be bothered arguing with Leeds fans about Brough anymore. Like I said, in June McGuire was selected in front of him despite Brough been the best player in league. Even Leeds wouldn't have had Mcguire in front of Brough. One of MANY situations handles poorly by Mcnmara.

Stick with Mcnamara we will push NZ and OZ
Close again as have too good a squad not too. But we won't anything, as Mcnamara doesn't have the experience of winning anything.