This isn't a knock on the expected crowd. 60-70000 is great.

But a few weeks ago I attended the NFL game at wembley. twice in the space of a month wembley had 80000 people paying a fair whack to watch an American football game which in reality meant very little to the majority of spectators.

We regularly get over 80000 for the challenge cup final when the bulk of spectators are from just 2 clubs.

So why can't we sell out the national stadium to watch one of the country's top 4 sports in the World Cup semi finals?

There simply has to be 90000 rugby league fans from this country who are capable spending £20 to watch the four best international rugby league teams fight it out for a place in the final.

There must be 90000 England rugby league fans who want to see their country play the world champions for a place in the final.

There won't be another rugby league World Cup in England for another 8 years at least.

How can we have these endless tiresome energy sapping debates with union folk about which is better when we can't sell out our national stadium for the WORLD CUP SEMI FINALS.

So how bout all the inane bickering on here about team selections, averages, McNamara etc ends for just 10 more days and everyone who hasn't got a ticket, get one and go support the F' IN team in what is the biggest match of their lives.

Wembley top tier is the only top tier stadium with a 'close' feeling. I like it up there, it's a really well designed stadium for the fan.

We have only had 1 crowd in over 50 years of World Cups in excess of 70k. With one last push we will get 2 70k plus crowds in consecutive weeks, with many people having to choose between them.
What's the quesion again?

I don't think it being a good crowd and this thread are mutually exclusive - I am pleased with the crowd but we should always want more for our game.

Agreed. Of course I want more. But I was just pointing out that in wanting more we're wanting more than levels which our game has never achieved before.

We could all get the ticket link now share them on twitter and FB lets all help with one last push