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Quote: salford1970 "Oh the Irony. Tell me I am a "know nowt" plastering my views (allowed by the way seeing as this is a message board for opinions) and then you do the same!!!'"


Who said I was posting about you? I was posting general.


Quote: salford1970 "Sinfield is 33. If anyone thinks they should be playing rep footy in their mid thirties I would tell them to have a word with themselves, it is too fast for an aging body and whilst he has an excellent kicking game the rest of his game doesn't suit the role nor has he ever been a standout against the big two.'"


If 33 is too old, then 31 is too old. And in anycase Peacock before him was 34 before relinquishing the captaincy. As with any player ever in the game, you will not stand out often against top oppossition if your team mates don't either. Not seen Tomkins have even a half decent game yet against the so called big two, how does that fit into your reasoning?


Quote: salford1970 "SOL might get one or two years as captain. I can't see an alternative other than Graham and he isn't up here for the Exiles games so I would pick someone home based for the role.'"


Graham is a much better alternative than a guy that is 31 where you deem too old only two years later. Graham did fill in as captain previously.


Quote: salford1970 "And I actually do care that McNamara is removed from the role. I don't know how he landed it in the first place considering his tenure at Bradford.'"


Make no difference what you care. As most sensible posters can work out, the results and the position we are would be no different under a different coach. Infact Tony Smiths results and performances as coach were worse, and he is regarded as a top coach.

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I am not blaming Sinfield for the loss, he had a fine game up until then.

However being captain, halfback and England's most experienced player, he committed two fundamental errors in the most crucial passages of play. Basics that are drilled into you as a kid (well at least growing up in Aus this was the case).

Have a read...

www.theroar.com.au/2013/11/24/si ... w-zealand/
I am not blaming Sinfield for the loss, he had a fine game up until then.

However being captain, halfback and England's most experienced player, he committed two fundamental errors in the most crucial passages of play. Basics that are drilled into you as a kid (well at least growing up in Aus this was the case).

Have a read...

www.theroar.com.au/2013/11/24/si ... w-zealand/


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That article also says that up until the last minute or so he'd played a near perfect game. Perhaps if he had a halfback partner who was able to shoulder more responsibility he'd have been mentally fresher in the last two minutes? Or if he hadn't made twice as many tackles as any other halfback on the field?

The things that I'll remember him doing from that game are two lovely passes which led directly to tries. The errors at the end were costly, but overall that was the best performance by a British halfback in 20 years IMO (please don't raise Long's Sydney effort - that was a dead match as far as the Aussies were concerned, not a WC semi final with everything on the line).

Its a real shame he isn't 2/3 years younger because the confidence he would have gained from his overall performance would have made him an absolute standout, particularly if Widdopp kicks on.

I've criticised Sinfield in the past for not being a world class stand off - I was wrong. Plain and simple.

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Indeed.

Those happy to point the finger at Sinfield for being the reason England lost, need to consider that he was also a large part of the reason they were in the lead in the last minute to start with.

The ball for Sam Burgess was sublime - a little juggle off the original pass, but then recovered quickly enough to dummy the defender and still get a sympathetic pass away.

Had Ben Westwood been able to keep hold of the ball when attempting to ground it for example, Sinfield's missed tackle at the end would have been a matter of consolation only for the Kiwis.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "The things that I'll remember him doing from that game are two lovely passes which led directly to tries. The errors at the end were costly, but overall that was the best performance by a British halfback in 20 years IMO (please don't raise Long's Sydney effort - that was a dead match as far as the Aussies were concerned, not a WC semi final with everything on the line).
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When you posted that, my mind shot back to Goulding's performance against Australia at Wembley, when Edwards had been sent off. Then I realised that was 19 years ago. I must be getting old.

(Wasn't Long's performance in Sydney a 1st test?)

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Quote: Offside Monkey "When you posted that, my mind shot back to Goulding's performance against Australia at Wembley, when Edwards had been sent off. Then I realised that was 19 years ago. I must be getting old.

(Wasn't Long's performance in Sydney a 1st test?)'"

It was GB's first test but Australia's 3rd. They had already beaten NZ twice and were in the final.

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