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Think of Leeds in the years when they shocked the league when they hadn't been playing great and it all clicked at once at the right time. Playing bad sides sometimes pulls the worst out of teams with the scrappy nature the same way playing the best allows the team to rise to their very best. and the likes of Sam B and Tomkins have the potential to do amazing things.

Tired of this negativity no wonder the sport wont get huge internationally with fans like we have. England football are never going to win anything anytime soon but it doesn't stop fans believing in them and getting behind them with the hope and passion that with a good run of form it may all click.

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What we really need is 80 minutes of non-stop Mexican waves. That could give us the edge imo.

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Quote: christopher "The negativity that has been spouted about England's WC campaign had frankly been both dissapointing and a tad depressing, I get the feeling certain 'fans' want England to fail so they can say 'I told you so'.

We are through to the semis we have hammered 2 sides comfortably beaten a much improved French side and came the closest we've been to beating Austrslia since 2006.

Oh and the childish McBanana name calling is now getting tedious.'"


Indeed. Sheens and Kurney have been changing their teams too. You need to just in case of injuries. Though I would have gone for Widdop at Halfback with Chase at Five-Eighth, but Sinfield did well against France.

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Quote: saint at wire "Chase & Sinfield did not impress at the weekend or the game before IMO.

Chase is undoubtedly a genius, he is a flawed genius. He often runs around like a headless chicken with no-one from his own side any clue what he is trying to do as he is so off the cuff. He is also very petulant in the same way as Tomkins was- a similarly gifted player; however Tomkins appears to be maturing and putting the daft stuff behind him.

Sinfield deserves a place in the side as he is a superb kicker and very experienced and professional and a very hard worker for the team. I'm not sure where to put him but he is not a natural S/O; perhaps second row as he is not a line breaking loose forward?

I personally would have liked to have seen Burrow and Widdup tried at S/H & S/O, of and Sam Burgess at loose - he would be devastating attacking centres and the odd second rower.

Getting back to Chase, he seems incapable of being part of structured play. This might be OK against the Kiwi's as they are more off the cuff and unstructured but certainly not against the Aussies as they have and stick to a firm structure.'"


For me it's about some of the middle men taking the ball to the line, condensing the oppositions defence, so O'Loughlin has to start at Loose Forward, with S Burgess in the Front Row. Sinfield did well in taking on the line against France.

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Quote: Dunbar "No wonder you dislike McNamara if he is missing the obvious key selection decision of putting Sinfield in the second row. I'm surprised he hasn't given Tom Burgess a run at scrum half either'"


Knowing him, I surprised he hasn't either. icon_lol.gif

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The "Why we CANNOT beat NZ" thread is twice as long as the why we can.

Shows our collective mentality at times doesn't it.

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