I was 'managed out' of a company because they identified me as a '3' ..... Basically, the company I worked at for many years (150 yr old engineering firm) was taken over by an over-ambitious gang of BS merchants, who loaded the company with debt and gave me the instruction to "use any method available to maximise short term revenues from clients". When I refused and stated that could only end up in the destruction of client/consultant relationship and eventual demise of the company, their answer was simple - They had no long term plan; they intended to get what they could and move on ...... I was forced out, the board took huge salaries/bonuses, and within 3 years the company was bankrupt, putting 2000 people out of work!

Maybe Hock (and I really, really, don't like the idea of him being me ) has simply pointed out to Mc that his plans are BS and wont work!

I just despair at the whole situation.

For years we’ve been building up to this W.C, yet with only a week to go a number of players decide to break the rules.

It appears Hock’s misdemeanours warranted expulsions from the group, but didn’t he state there were about six of them?

I’ve no idea who the “stupid six” are, but come on, why would they flout the house rules, is it simply endemic of our society?

Graham has allegedly been dropped as part of the fiasco, but what of the others, have they all received the same punishment?

McIlorum and Hardaker were rumoured to be two more and they're not in so that's four altogether along with Graham and Hock.

Hock said six or seven but the poor lad probably struggled adding them all up and got his fingers in a muddle.

The press are there to get a story. What do you expect them to do? He could have said something along the lines of Gareth's entitled to his opinion but we felt differently and the matter's now closed. He should also have had a reply ready to go about Graham because it's a fecking obvious question for them to ask. We keep banging on about being treated like the bigger sports and when we are (it's not always going to be positive) we bottle it and run away. Pathetic and handled poorly from the start...

Exactly.

McNamara could have used a bit of humour or at least prepared answers to obvious questions. Instead to walks out after 6 minutes. totally out of his depth. But he did not pick himself as England coach..that will be down to Wood and his mates.

Graham is one of the top players in the World, and hasnt been selected, and McNamara has not provided any explanation as to why not. He might have expected there would be a question or two about it.

All he had to do is put a statement out similar to the Hock one; "Graham has broken one of the team rules, and has been stood down for the game". Story over.