The hot tickets have been the £25 ones, which have flown off the shelf in the last two weeks; with only about 10 rows left in U22. The £20 ones haven't been as popular but been selling. So I am slightly surprised the ticketing agent have noticed this and released more £25/£30 tickets in other areas. Disappointing but not much we can do. I just hope once U22 goes, they don't waste any time and get more of those seats open elsewhere in the ground.

It’s a fairly obvious principle If you count tickets sold, you count tickets sold. We cant sell the tickets for the double header twice so there isn’t 180k tickets available for it. There are 90k tickets available for it. If we sell 90k tickets we sell 90k tickets If those 90k then attended the two matches included within that ticket they bought, 180k attended those two matches. If we didn’t do this then when we averaged out the attendances we would need to do one of the two things A) ignore a game entirely, or B) pretend that two games for which 90k bought tickets for, only 45k bought tickets for. Both would be clearly and demonstrably wrong.

We count season tickets in with walk-up tickets in club attendance stats, we count the Magic Weekend attendees for every match, the RFU count both attendances for double headers, as does the NRL, and I don’t remember either yourself or the spreadsheet attention whore bringing up this issue on the attendance thread when both yourself and the spreadsheet attention whore used exactly the same calculation. In fact, nobody argued that we should ignore 5 of the 7 Magic Weekend games, or pretend that only 10k watched the Rhinos or Wigan that weekend, nobody noticed there was an issue at all until your bottom got a little sqeaky that your predictions of doom maybe off the mark, and the spreadsheet attention whore realised that even the 20% safety blanket he built in to his bet with JB may not be enough.


The bought tickets for it. Everything else is irrelevant. And as a plastic paddy in NZ I would have thought you would have stayed away from criticising peoples choice of nationality.

The world and national game drew 3000 to Craven Cottage last night for Australia v Canada soccer game.

I'm predicting our games will draw more.

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2013 Magic Weekend total attendance in the real world = 62,042
2013 Magic Weekend total attendance in SmokoTAworld = 216,919

Then your stats are wrong. If you have only included 62042 and divided the total attendance by the number of games your stat is incorrect

It seems you spent a whole year of your life as a spreadsheet attention whore based on a pretty basic incorrect equation





its pretty obvious that 30k tickets were sold for each game on day 1, and 31k for each game on day 2. The fact they were sold as one ticket is irrelevant. A bit like how we dont discount season ticket holders from a clubs home attendance, they attend each game, they just have one ticket.

And i think we can all be pretty clear and honest that there wasnt only 8.5k people attending the round 16 game between Leeds and Wigan. The published attendance was over 31k. HTH

Perhaps the world and national game needs to discount itself when it comes to meaningless friendlies.

How about 50% off ticket prices?

I doubt the world and national game would need to discount their FIFA World Cup prices though.

Unlike the RLWC where even it's most ardent fans wouldn't purchase £10 and £15 tickets until they were offered at a discount for £5 and £7.50.

I take it you're no longer interested in that average attendance bet which you offered me?

Wise decision.

You'd have lost, and comprehensively so.

You could still take the bet that compares equivalent games that the group games in 2013 average more than 1995 and the semi’s average more than 1995, and the final gets more than 1995.

Or do you still need your 20% safety blanket?

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The MM attendance was a good number but would be much more if so many committed RL fans had not taken the decision not to go back. This means that as the overall attendance is fairly static, the numbers must presumably be made up by new entrants. But the RFL have made a big mistake in entering into agreements with the stadium to allow it to hold customers hostage to exorbitant prices for poor food, and drinks that I wouldn't hose the garage down with.

Many traditional RL fans especially those with families have always taken their own food and drink along, but at OT, you can't, and so for example a family of 2 adults and 3 children wanting to stay for 3 games will need to spend an arm and a leg for everyone's subsistence. They might have got a cheap family ticket, but OT will make a fortune out of them.

It puts thousands off. I know dozens and dozens of people who won't go again precisely because of this. And they like the event. They would, all things being equal, choose to go than stay away. They would even spend money at the ground (you can't help but be nattered by them into letting them go for a burger and a coke, and someone with a couple of flasks of tea or coffee would very probably start off with a couple of overpriced "beers" (I am not advocating allowing own alcohol btw just to make that clear).

So to an extent, William is right, the event has lost some of what always has been and still is the old rugby league crowd magic, because the fans can't behave like RL fans are used to being allowed to behave, it spoils the family atmosphere, and leaves those who do go often feeling ripped off. But it is not the product on the field that is to blame, on the contrary. The main difference is that some of us, unlike Eve, don't find it funny.

I've totted up a general figure of how many tickets I realistically have been sold for each game and my total comes to 272K.

I've heard 360K have been sold from various sources/

Where the extra 88K tickets are I don't know, not sure if that's massively good news or the figure is wrong.

What kind of sales figures have people heard for some of the less well discussed games?

There's plenty of £20 tickets available in the upper tier corner blocks for Cardiff. As low as row 5, so hardly in the gods.