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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"Just to Add a little context to that video,the stewards went to the back of the stand to apprehend whomever had let off the second smoke bomb of the night, which when thrown hit a Widnes fan on the head, then landed in the stand amongst family's'"
What the Widnes fan done was totally out of order and he should be banned for life, there's no need for that in our sport. What the steward done was nothing less than assault, this could have caused a full scale riot.
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| Quote HARDMAN="HARDMAN"www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu3fFK_uIrI
This is a better shot. Not condoning what the very small minority of what Widnes fans did but surely this could have caused a riot.'"
When you watch this video the steward dishing out the "uppercuts" is actually only hitting the Widnes fans arm in what appears to be an attempt to make him let go of the barrier. Not trying to justify the actions but pointing out that another view gives another interpretation. Sure the club and the police will view ALL the evidence, including whatever CCTV footage the club has of the incident, and make a balanced and thought out response.
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| Quote mikej="mikej"When you watch this video the steward dishing out the "uppercuts" is actually only hitting the Widnes fans arm in what appears to be an attempt to make him let go of the barrier. '"
Agreed, he's only using the official Wigan 'third man in' tackling technique.
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| The 'fan' is holding the barrier, the punches are to the top of his arms. That would be deemed 'reasonable force'.
Just because he's a gripper doesn't mean anything besides I wish it had been his face, if cowardly scum want to kick off in groups at matches they might think twice if they thought they'd get a few smacks around the face.
Ask yourself this, the steward is surrounded by police, do you not think he's not aware of that, he's trained and given a proportionate of legal backing to use force. These guys might look dumb but they not what they are doing and how to do it.
They did a sterling job in my opinion on this occasion.
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| First time I watched the video, it looked pretty bad. Watched it another couple of times though and it does look like the guy has hold of the steward so the steward is trying to punch the guy's arms to get free of him. Kind of like in games when you see a player strike the arm of another player who has hold of his shirt or arm but obviously this looks more aggressive. Not as bad as I first thought though.
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| Quote GT="GT"Salford never went bust.'"
You'll never succeed using things like facts on here
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| Quote Him="Him"Quote Him="GT"Salford never went bust.'"
You'll never succeed using things like facts on here'"
Not exactly sure what franchising / financial instability of clubs has to do with the actions of certain ' richard craniums '
over the years 30+ I've seen the odd fracas involving most teams fans* SL & Championship or supporters purporting to be clubs fans. mainly beer inspired spats
I've seen nothing to dispel my faith in RL as a sport that doesn't need segregation , with fans that are vociferous in support of their club but also approachable and add to the experience .
It's not just SL :- far worse
[url=http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/new-laws-urged-as-spectators-join-the-fight-20130817-2s3k3.htmlbrawling at suburban rugby league matches.[/url
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| How could 3 of them not pull this guy off the barrier? Give me a break, he has gone totally overboard. Widnes arent clean in any of this but neither are the stewards. I'm sure they're alright blokes out of work but when they are in work and in the many times i've been to Warrington games on the very few occasions its happened they do tend to make things escalate from something minor.
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| Quote Horatio Yed="Horatio Yed"The 'fan' is holding the barrier, the punches are to the top of his arms. That would be deemed 'reasonable force'.
Just because he's a gripper doesn't mean anything besides I wish it had been his face, if cowardly scum want to kick off in groups at matches they might think twice if they thought they'd get a few smacks around the face.
Ask yourself this, the steward is surrounded by police, do you not think he's not aware of that, he's trained and given a proportionate of legal backing to use force. These guys might look dumb but they not what they are doing and how to do it.
They did a sterling job in my opinion on this occasion.'"
How did you work that out? Regardless of whether he intended to go beyond "reasonable force" or not he caused more people to get involved, not quite crowd control. From my spec on the half way line it looked awful and as a representative of the club it simply isn't good enough.
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| Quote Ganson's Optician="Ganson's Optician"How did you work that out? Regardless of whether he intended to go beyond "reasonable force" or not he caused more people to get involved, not quite crowd control. From my spec on the half way line it looked awful and as a representative of the club it simply isn't good enough.'"
So the guy holding the barrier refusing to be ejected, just holds on?
You've proven time abd and again on the wire forum that you live in student liberal not the real world land. What do yoi expect him to do?
Ask yourself this, if the police don't charge the steward doesn't that say that they deemed his actions as correct?
Force is sometimes deemed necessary whether you agree or not, welcome to the horrible real world and bad side of human nature.
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| Quote Horatio Yed="Horatio Yed"The 'fan' is holding the barrier, the punches are to the top of his arms. That would be deemed 'reasonable force'.
Just because he's a gripper doesn't mean anything besides I wish it had been his face, if cowardly scum want to kick off in groups at matches they might think twice if they thought they'd get a few smacks around the face.
Ask yourself this, the steward is surrounded by police, do you not think he's not aware of that, he's trained and given a proportionate of legal backing to use force. These guys might look dumb but they not what they are doing and how to do it.
They did a sterling job in my opinion on this occasion.'"
Are you and Mikej taking the ? Whatever the Widnes fan did, did not endorse somebody who is paid to keep order to assault him.
You pair would make Olympic boxing judges as the majority of those punches were points scorers. What about the last two or three when he was 2-3 yards away from the first assault took place. Was he still holding onto the barrier and/or the stewards arm then?
You can't see what you want to see. No right minded individual can condone the reported behaviour of some Widnes fans or the actions of that 'steward' no matter where your allegiances lie.
Get a grip for s sake
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