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| Quote RLBandit="RLBandit"Exactly. Nothing personal against Ray French, who I'm sure deserves plenty credit for his services to the sport, but any one with an A-level grade D in marketing could tell you that the image presented on Saturday was all wrong, absolutely dreadful. As you say, how the heck is that supposed to help attract corporate sponsors? Sunday was miles better (apart from the low attendance), but, when facing media bias as we always do, we have to get it right nearly all the time, not 50% of the time. It's no good moaning about the bias, we need to accept it's there but break through it with professionalism, not playing into the hands of those who denigrate the sport as something that belongs with pigeon racing. Rightly or wrongly, sponsors would be worried about the Saturday coverage, easily outweighing the positives of Sunday.
What can be done? This clearly isn't the RFL's fault in a direct sense - The RFL obviously don't have direct control over who the BBC choose to employ as commentators, but surely the point of hiring "big-hitters" ( let's wait and see hey ) is to have the behind-the-scenes influence to make sure the game is presented in the best possible light. I'm pretty sure the LTA would have a word if they got the tennis equivalent of French and Davies to commentate on Wimbledon. Are they at least 'having a word?''"
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| Quote Maple Leaf="Maple Leaf"........and you would be soooooo much better!'"
What are you on about? Presumably you think you're a better player than Lee Briers then?
Quote Maple Leaf="Maple Leaf"Was Briers playing?'"
Why don't you just stick to accusing immigrants of spreading TB? |
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| Quote fleabag="fleabag"The BBC IMHO actually quite like us having Ray French and before him Eddie Waring.
They both played into the BBCs stereotypical image of 'ragbe leeg'.
For those who have been around for many a year.
We wanted Waring to be 'sacked', but the BBC basically said it was either Waring on the BBC or no Rugby League!
Personally I have no doubt that both French and especially Eddie Waring, they both love(d) the game. But IMHO, both should have been 'put to grass' many years before they became a standing joke by RL fans and the general public.'"
I'm sure there's truth in that. Thankfully, it feels at least like there's also some opposing forces who might actually like to see the game taken seriously ( as opposed to something like a travel documentary into the Deep Dark North ) - the contrast between Saturday and Sunday's coverage was stark - like two different sports. Make your mind up BBC, and go for the 'take it seriously' option and let Ray French retire gracefully. Great guy, I'm sure, but getting the sport taken seriously is more important. |
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| Quote Him="Him"What are you on about? Presumably you think you're a better player than Lee Briers then?
Why don't you just stick to accusing immigrants of spreading TB?'"
Try and stick on topic.
I presume no such thing - that is YOUR assumption! |
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| Quote Maple Leaf="Maple Leaf"Try and stick on topic.
I presume no such thing - that is YOUR assumption!'"
It's a simple question. Are you better at rugby league than Lee Briers or not? If not then I await the removal of your post criticising him. |
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Ray will always have high standards to aspire to, having managed to confuse Anthony and Andy Farrell...
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Ray will always have high standards to aspire to, having managed to confuse Anthony and Andy Farrell...'"
It's an easy mistake to make. |
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| Quote Maple Leaf="Maple Leaf"The inference is that all the moaners on here could do better - if not then suggest an alternative'"
I'll have a go. Any idea where to send my application? |
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Keith Macklin was the best RL commentator ever (and by a serious distance), made Waring sound like an amateur never mind a buffoon of a Northern stereotype. French has never been able to 'commentate' in the true sense & was fortunate to get the gig that Waring had tenuously held onto until 1981 for the CC.
Dave Woods is better than French but still isn't great, he simply just doesn't understand the game fully even after all these years...
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| Quote RLBandit="RLBandit"... Great guy, I'm sure, but getting the sport taken seriously is more important.'"
Not a dig at you personally, but when the sport has so many chippy and whingy followers, perhaps that doesn't help. |
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| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"Keith Macklin was the best RL commentator ever (and by a serious distance), made Waring sound like an amateur never mind a buffoon of a Northern stereotype. French has never been able to 'commentate' in the true sense & was fortunate to get the gig that Waring had tenuously held onto until 1981 for the CC.
Dave Woods is better than French but still isn't great, he simply just doesn't understand the game fully even after all these years...'"
Spot on. Macklin had both the voice and the knowledge. No wonder he went off to do soccer when he couldn't get the gig off Eddie Waring ! It was chalk versus cheese(y).
Ray Warren has been the finest League commentator by a country mile with 'Sterlo' the best co-commentator as he is completely unbiased, unlike Phil Gould, whose passion and knowledge do lend great insight to the viewers.
I believe that part of Woods' appeal (:EH:) to some is that he 'isn't Ray French'. He is, err, simply welcome, err, relief. |
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