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| These players would need a lot of work because their core skills are of similar standard to amateur rugby league. Rugby union has become almost like the NFL in that the specialisation of positions makes for very crap basic skills; they simply aren't needed to get by. That's not a slight on either code, just the way in which the games differ and prioritise specialised skills and interests over the basics. If you can handle yourself in a scrum or a line out you really don't need to be particularly good at anything else, a prop that can do the basics isn't the standard, it's optional.
Some of the forwards in rugby union are an absolute joke. Being able to pass, catch, run basic lines, support the ball carrier, these are all worthy of huge applause in rugby union because they're a rare thing, where as in rugby league it's expected of all players to do these things to a decent level, if not excel at them. That's most of what their job is.
I enjoy rugby, it's the first code I was introduced to and became a fan of, but there's no doubt that for all the good athletes they've got most of the players are considerably behind league. You watch a game of rugby at the highest level and count the number of times mammoth overlaps are wasted because the players are too uneducated and thick to see it or, assuming they see that it's on, too incompetent to pass and catch. See how many times passes are thrown at players feet, or overlaps blown because none of these guys seem to realise that it's not necessary to pass to the man who's right next to you. You watch union teams and they throw about 8 passes just to get the ball from one sideline to the other. They'll run nice plays off the back of line-outs, no doubt, but ask them to show attacking prowess and creativity in general play and most can't do it.
That level of incompetence in attack tends to lead to incompetence in defence also because rugby union guys just aren't used to defending against teams that can attack. To compound the issue rugby union has a really outdated and amateur attitude towards tackling in itself, so not only are rugby players unfamiliar with facing opposition that can attack, even in the tackle they're a liability. A lot of them still think it's 1960 and that the best way to tackle is to go down low in any and all situations; sports science, winning the collision, stopping the offload seem to be novelty ideas. I'll go one further and say that there's a huge number of players in rugby union, compared to rugby league, who don't even understand heart. Mentally some of these guys I wouldn't go near with a barge pole; plenty are weak minded to the point of cowardice. A good number of rugby players don't like tackling and will only tackle when there's no other option, as in when somebody is running directly at them. If you put them in a situation where body contact is optional they'll often take the weak option and hug/pull at the arms rather than put their body on the line and lead with the shoulder. You certainly won't see them throwing themselves into tackles. This lack of accountability and competitiveness would need to be worked on, half-d arm tackling has no place in league. I'm not saying it doesn't happen in league, it does, it's just nothing like how common and accepted it is in rugby union. Cowardice is shunned in league, but in rugby union the pundits, players (and presumably the coaches) act like it's just the way it is, running side-on at a guy and hugging/pulling at him is perfectly normal.
George North is great though
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| Quote: moxi1 "Do elaborate, who's better then Folau in RU. Please don't say George '10 metres' North.'"
Rugby Union players better than Folau:
Dan Carter, Richie McCaw, David Pocock, Will Genia that's four of the top of my head, If we are going for better International wingers then that's Julian Savea off the top of my head.
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| Quote: George Agdgdgwngo® "Rugby Union players better than Folau
and not one of them are getting the world wide media coverage folau is attracting. Dan carter lol great kicking game but anything else and folau is better, julian savea is a good powerful winger but if you don't give him room like digby he will be quite unlike folau where he will just out jump anyone or find space that a over sized winger wouldn't. david pocock and richie McCaw are great union players but there isn't a more athletic player in world rugby that folau.
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North not heading south
NRL clubs have been advised to keep their hands off British and Irish Lions winger George North, whose battle with Wallabies star Israel Folau has been a highlight of the rugby Test series. Sin Bin revealed at the start of the Lions tour several NRL clubs were interested in North and five-eighth Owen Farrell, the son of former Great Britain and Wigan captain Andy Farrell. But North's agent Christian Abt said the 21-year-old Welsh star would not consider a code switch before 2017. ''It is flattering to receive such possible interest,'' Abt told Sin Bin. ''[But] George has recently signed a three-year deal to Northampton Saints.''
Read more: www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2YD2eKVQM
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North not heading south
NRL clubs have been advised to keep their hands off British and Irish Lions winger George North, whose battle with Wallabies star Israel Folau has been a highlight of the rugby Test series. Sin Bin revealed at the start of the Lions tour several NRL clubs were interested in North and five-eighth Owen Farrell, the son of former Great Britain and Wigan captain Andy Farrell. But North's agent Christian Abt said the 21-year-old Welsh star would not consider a code switch before 2017. ''It is flattering to receive such possible interest,'' Abt told Sin Bin. ''[But] George has recently signed a three-year deal to Northampton Saints.''
Read more: www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2YD2eKVQM
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| Quote: dubairl "and not one of them are getting the world wide media coverage folau is attracting. Dan carter lol great kicking game but anything else and folau is better, julian savea is a good powerful winger but if you don't give him room like digby he will be quite unlike folau where he will just out jump anyone or find space that a over sized winger wouldn't. david pocock and richie McCaw are great union players but there isn't a more athletic player in world rugby that folau.'"
Oh dear we have another one, I agree you get voted the Best Player in The World just because you have a great kicking game You mean like all the room Israel Folau got in the first test He has started with good promise but he's achieved nothing as an International Rugby Union player yet, Looking good against a Lions team thrown together for a tour with not much time to build a solid defensive structure is hardly like impressing against the All-Blacks or Spring Boks, The comment wasn't about who was more athletic he said Folau was the best player in Union which is an absolutely ridiculous statement.
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| Quote: George Agdgdgwngo® "Oh dear we have another one, I agree you get voted the Best Player in The World just because you have a great kicking game
no i'm not just going on internationals as he has only played 2 games and has looked like 1 of the best players on the pitch in both games, i'm basing it of the super rugby comp as well where every week he gets a lot of attention of other teams and commentators also he has the best try scoring ratio. Really you dont get voted best player becuase of a kicking game in union? are you sure? Owen Farrell was on the shortlist last year! He is the best player in union at the moment and thats why the ARU are going to bend over backwards to sign him up so he doesn't leave similar to sonny bill.
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