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Cant speak for Yorkshire as I'm not sure if there are different rules depending on the association the club is affiliated to. But in the North West Counties, the rules you refer to are played upto and including under 9s. At under 10s I believe they play "mod" and 11s play "mod transitional" before moving to (with a couple of exceptions) full game rules at 12s, which is generally where neutral referees get involved.

The Primary game rules are, as you say, to get kids involved and having fun chucking it around. But if you are teaching them respect of possession and running at the line rather than round it, my guess (from a referee's point of view) is that your rewards will come when they start playing mod and above, when they have had a couple of years hitting the line where others have just been throwing it about. You'll find other teams will make more mistakes and wont have that technique skilled into them for as long as your players have.

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Quote: dubairl "Did you play any amateur rugby? try telling 13-18 year olds that winning doesn't matter, you would soon have no team.'"


You don't tell them that winning doesn't matter. No post has suggested that.
You do though, encourage the attitude that performance, work, training, development and improvement are more important.

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Quote: Richie "You don't tell them that winning doesn't matter. No post has suggested that.
You do though, encourage the attitude that performance, work, training, development and improvement are more important.'"


Of course winning matters, nobody likes losing. I'm not saying coaches should go over the top and start bullying young kids but when you have a poor game and lose the coaches ride you harder in training and that comes from losing.
For me its no coincidence that the players that get signed up are from the best amateur teams, and the decent players who play for the poorer teams move to the better teams.

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Quote: dubairl "Of course winning matters, nobody likes losing. I'm not saying coaches should go over the top and start bullying young kids but when you have a poor game and lose the coaches ride you harder in training and that comes from losing.
For me its no coincidence that the players that get signed up are from the best amateur teams, and the decent players who play for the poorer teams move to the better teams.'"


Who has said winning doesn't matter? Why are you ranting as if someone has?

The coaches response should be based on the performance, not the result. It's possible to play badly and win and also play well and lose. Working hard in training certainly should not only be related to the losing the previous match.
That's if you're going to be a reactive rather than proactice coach, but that's another subject.

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Quote: dubairl "Did you play any amateur rugby? try telling 13-18 year olds that winning doesn't matter, you would soon have no team.'"

Yes thanks, I've also coached for the last 10 years. I've consistently told the 13-16 year olds I've coached (as well as the under 13's) that winning doesn't matter. It's the amateur game. It's supposed to be played for fun, for the enjoyment of the game, for personal improvement physically, mentally and socially. Compared to those factors, winning doesn't matter at all. If winning is vital to you then you've fundamentally misunderstood why the amateur game is there.

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Min/mod rules: files.pitchero.com/clubs/1907/mi ... 0rules.pdf

Primary rules: media.rladmin.co.uk/docs/Primary ... 202012.pdf

There might be odd variance in some leagues but (hopefully) everyone is heading towards a common set!

Personal view on the knock-on stuff is that a bit of coaches common sense comes into it....
Min/mod rules: files.pitchero.com/clubs/1907/mi ... 0rules.pdf

Primary rules: media.rladmin.co.uk/docs/Primary ... 202012.pdf

There might be odd variance in some leagues but (hopefully) everyone is heading towards a common set!

Personal view on the knock-on stuff is that a bit of coaches common sense comes into it....


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