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Quote: Cronus "Great. Let's do it then.

In the meantime, another crappy home atmosphere with no visiting fans, a loss of revenue for UK clubs (the amount and relevance of which has been argued to death), 900 miles to travel for the away fixture and more journeymen Antipodeans.

I'm all for careful expansion, but not expansion for expanion's sake.'"


What is it with away attendances? Was it a 'crappy home atmosphere' Leeds v Melbourne? How many Melbourne fans made the trip ?

If you don't want to/can't make the away trip so what? Nobody's twisting your arm.

This seasons Heineken Cup, Munster v Racing Metro, over 25,000 attended. I bet it wasn't a 'crappy home atmosphere'. Wonder how many Metro fans made the trip?

My own personal opinion is, that there should always a place for the local, for example,Wakefield v Castleford derbies. Tradition should always be cherished. But, who cares outside 'the heartlands' about those type of fixtures?

Creating 'events', like Leeds v Toulouse could generate greater interest in our game and it's up to the clubs to pack them in, not to rely on visiting support.

But then again, what do I know. Perhaps it's best to retreat to a few miles either side of a strip of Tarmac in the north of England

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Quote: Wellsy13 "Impossible question to answer without Toulouse being in the league.

I can only go by comparing Cas to Catalans, and IMO Catalans have by far the better French players than Cas do local English players.

Also, if Cas weren't in SL, there would still be 6 other local SL clubs around to sign up the local talent into their academies. Cas aren't exactly essential to the production of players in that area when there are that many clubs on the doorstep. They'd still come up through somewhere if they were good enough (and looking through the list if Cas products in their squad, some are clearly not SL quality).

Catalans may sign up the occasional player from Toulouse, but it's a huge distance away (equivalent of Hull to Liverpool). It's a huge barrier to development. They could produce many if their own players in that area for sure, and that's without wishing for union converts (which I don't think anyone should count on happening).'"


Without a S.L club on their doorstep the kids would soon lose interest in the sport in the long term. There hasn't been a Cumbrian team in the top flight for a while...so compare the number of Cumbrians playing in S.L now to what it was 20 years ago....go on name them!

Talk about a "never mind you Jack" attitude...mind you have signed plenty from my district over the past 30 years (and continue to do so) not bad from the supposed hot bed of Humberside is it?.

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Quote: easthull fc fan "how is st helens on my doorstep or wigan i live on kingswood your very opinionated on other peoples opinions wellsy.'"

5 clubs in the NW. 5 clubs in West Yorkshire. 2 in East Yorkshire. It's safe to say that there is a fair concentration of clubs in small pockets. Hull is isolated from the rest, but we're still sharing.

Clubs in West Yorkshire have everyone within an hours drive. That's not a good spread. Everyone's on each other's toes effectively.

I like to justify my opinions, nothing wrong with that. I also like it when others can justify there's when asked about them. If it's a decent opinion, it shouldn't be difficult to justify (even if it doesn't agree with mine).

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Quote: Wellsy13 "
Clubs in West Yorkshire have everyone within an hours drive. That's not a good spread. Everyone's on each other's toes effectively'"


That's the dumbest point ever on VT, well done !!!

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Quote: duke street 10 "Do you really think the union boys will sit back and welcome competition in their City...especially the biggest team in their code multiple European champions etc?....they'll put up any barrier they can to make sure the league club isn't a threat (you obviously don't know much about history towards our sport in France)
FYI the Toulouse rugby union club supports the creation of a SL club in Toulouse. The two codes overlap only a little in their calender, with RU a winter sport and Super League a summer sport. The head of the French Federation of RL, who is the former boss of Toulouse, Carlos Zalduendo, is a former high ranking police official who knows all the rugby union officials personally. Toulouse rugby union officials have even appeared at an event promoting the Toulouse SL application.

The good relations between codes in Toulouse is totally different to the situation in Perpignan, where in any case RU has tried to, but has not successfully hampered, the growth of RL.

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Quote: Cas Till I Die "Translation - Cas would.

Thanks'"

If you read the rest of my post, I argued why I disagree that Cas would produce more quality players over time by comparing Toulouse with Catalans.

If you can prove that Cas would produce more, be my guest. Otherwise, your question achieves nothing. It's a fallacious argument.

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