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Bring Back Promotion & Relegation

Haven Horizon, a supporters group of Whitehaven RLFC, is calling on the Rugby Football League to review the current Super League licensing system and consider bringing back promotion and relegation. Since the move was made in 2009 to move to a franchise model, teams in the lower divisions have had their chances of reaching the top tier significantly reduced.

In all the other major sports in the UK, football, cricket, rugby union, promotion and relegation exists successfully, so why has it been taken away from rugby league?

Haven Horizon want to obtain as many signatures as possible to highlight that the rugby league community wants to see promotion and relegation return. If you agree and would like to see this happen, please sign this petition!

To sign the petition, click here -
Spread the word and share this link with your friends!

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Quote: Mr Hicks "Now let me see. Most people on here who are against it are already in super league.
I totaly agree that there must be realistic criterias to be met.
If they did teams could build up to it even if it was a 5-10 year plan.
I for one know someone who would put in a good lump of money into my club if there was promotion, but wont do it because he says he wont waste money just pumping money into something that cant go forward.
How many other business men or women think the same way or it could be stoping sponsers who already invest putting more in.
Like someone else on here said what other sport does this system exist in.
Yes young players have come through but why should championship clubs not be able to build round there young talent instead of having to let them go.'"


Quite the contrary. An investor should see that he can invest in a club, as opposed to a team. If he does that, there's a chance to get into the top league based on the quality of the club. That should seem a far more secure proposition than investing in just the team and relying on match results which depend on so many factors outside your control.

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Quote: Starbug "Utter bollox'"


You could save us all a lot of time if you just put that instead of your usual ramblings.

The game needs to grow it's audience in order to attract the big TV deals. The majority of British sport enthusiasts live in the south of the country, where we have little presence. This is why London RL is still going, in order to "tap" that market.

Imagine if you were flicking through the channels, looking for some sport to watch and you happened across a game that looked kind of similar to one you were already familiar with but played between teams from 2 small towns from the Truro area.

Would you watch it? I know I probably wouldn't - because I couldn't care less about a game between 2 clubs that I've never heard of playing a sport that I have no interest in.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: TrinityIHC "You could save us all a lot of time if you just put that instead of your usual ramblings.

The game needs to grow it's audience in order to attract the big TV deals. The majority of British sport enthusiasts live in the south of the country, where we have little presence. This is why London RL is still going, in order to "tap" that market.

Imagine if you were flicking through the channels, looking for some sport to watch and you happened across a game that looked kind of similar to one you were already familiar with but played between teams from 2 small towns from the Truro area.

Would you watch it? I know I probably wouldn't - because I couldn't care less about a game between 2 clubs that I've never heard of playing a sport that I have no interest in.'"


The reason your post was bollox is because you suggest that the Championships need TV coverage to build , they dont , if anything it damages them , especially as they recieve no monetary compensation for being featured

Quote: TrinityIHC "]In my mind we do need to do more to sort out the lower leagues, but it will be tough in an ever shrinking world for teams like Fev, Batley, Hunslet, Dewsbury and Keighley to ever be a big draw for either walk up fans or TV audiences.

It's on 2 fronts as well, people in Hunslet will become ever more likely to follow the Rhinos and claim Leeds connections, Keighley have the Bulls nearby etc.

But also, in terms of TV audiences (and this applies to SL as well to a degree) - beyond those who are already into the sport, they will always struggle to market fixtures between teams from places that your average southerner has never heard of. In all likelihood, I'd suggest that theres a great many people who probably havent heard of Wakefield down south, let alone places like Dewsbury, Featherstone, Workington etc - they simply don't care and THAT is the biggest challenge facing our game IMO.[/quote]]


There is no need for anybody but the citizens of those towns to care , there is no benifit to any of those clubs to be on national TV

The Championship clubs need to be built locally , and with marketing help they could be , but they also need the Competitions themselves to be promoted , much of that falls at the RFL s feet , they recognised that when P and R was removed , but have done bugger all since to try to make it happen , in fact they have done exactly the opposite , they have [ along with inept club adminstrations ] devalued the competitions

There are currently no clubs in the Championships anywhere near ready to take on a 3 year licence , and that is a massive failure of the sport

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Quote: Starbug "The reason your post was bollox is because you suggest that the Championships need TV coverage to build , they dont , if anything it damages them , especially as they recieve no monetary compensation for being featured



I disagree, if the game can attract a decent tv deal, this will supply cash both centrally and to the clubs. Cash that can then be invested in the promotion of the game.


It's a bit of a chicken & egg situation tbh but can't see where else the cash is gonna come from.

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Quote: TrinityIHC "

But it can't , as soon as SKY pulled out the Championships should have pulled the plug on live TV coverage , it provides nothing to the competition or the clubs in it

The Championship Clubs need to focus on building their local fan bases , this is best done by promoting matches on the weekend when it is easier to get both home and away fans to attend , the clubs also need to look to work together to increase income and improve atmosphere at the matches , once again , easier done at the weekend

TV coverage would best be provided with a ' Magazine,Highlights,Review,Preview ' type show , In fact I put forward an idea for that which could have been put together for a couple of grand a show , initially put on the internet but potentially of interest to a broadcaster with a sponsor to pick up the tab

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