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| I don't think we're likely to see clubs 'closed down' or any of the knee-jerk measures currently being bandied around ('ban all sports betting now!' - as if a shedload isn't done offshore even by Aussies anyway). Some clubs may get hammered and have a number of players banned though.
ASADA has asked players to come forward now and face 6 months as opposed to a potential 4 years if they are done involuntarily. I think it will take a bit more pressure for many players to come forward though, as the price for leniency will be to spill the beans on everything they know - which is likely to involve giving evidence against teammates.
However, if drug use is shown to be absolutely widespread in terms of numbers of players and across both AFL and NRL, I wouldn't be surprised to see a further amnesty being granted for players at least, as if AFL and NRL were genuinely smashed to pieces (i.e. 100s of first-graders facing bans) then something would be done to protect the sports. Knocking over the AFL and NRL combined would be the equivalent of wiping out the Premier League.
It should be noted that the 'non-international' element primarily relates to potential match-fixing. As we've already seen, cricket has its issues, and soccer may have been caught up in it, not because its a major sport here, but gamblers across the world can understand it and place bets (I also wouldn't underestimate the fact that footballers here in the main also aren't paid as well as AFL/NRL players which potentially could make them easier to target).
As for naming names, its not just criminal issues, there's also the fact that any player who faces a doping investigation could also argue for prejudicial hearings if their name is plastered all over the papers and the evidence against them is based on evidence from other people.
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| "That's my beef with this - if we've got the drug problems we've had, well, what's the drug agency been doing? We pay them a lot of money to come into our sport. We made a lot of compromises for them to come into our sport. And now they're telling us we've got a problem. I can't detect it, I've got no means to do that. We employ them to do that." - Wayne Bennett
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| Being a personal trainer with a particular passion for sports conditioning and knowing several pro strength & conditioning coaches and rugby league players - they have all told me they know first hand that growth hormone use is widespread. Without them telling me its still obvious, look at the huge amounts of muscle mass some players over here have gained in pre season, its just not possible to maintain that throughout the season and have the time and energy to play in and recover from games, but many do maintain it. That's not protein shakes and maintenance strength training, its steroid and growth hormone use. There is no other explanation.
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Quote: Buggo "You used to be innocent until proven guilty, not seeing much of that so far in this story.'"
Absolutely right. But... ASADA over here regularly test players in and out of game time, including visits to training, games, etc. They can come anytime, anywhere. If you refuse to give a sample, you are "presumed" to be hiding something.
Here's the current anti-doping policy.
www.rlpa.com.au/content/nrl-anti ... olicy-2013
If you're an athlete and want to know what is currently banned, so you genuinely don't take the wrong headache tablet etc. download WADAs app which gives you the full list of substances.
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Quote: Buggo "You used to be innocent until proven guilty, not seeing much of that so far in this story.'"
Absolutely right. But... ASADA over here regularly test players in and out of game time, including visits to training, games, etc. They can come anytime, anywhere. If you refuse to give a sample, you are "presumed" to be hiding something.
Here's the current anti-doping policy.
www.rlpa.com.au/content/nrl-anti ... olicy-2013
If you're an athlete and want to know what is currently banned, so you genuinely don't take the wrong headache tablet etc. download WADAs app which gives you the full list of substances.
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| I was relating to the blanket coverage that all sports are drug using cheats that has been in the Australian media, if they are not. they are match fixing, if not that they are connected to organized crime.
How much Mud can they throw without showing some facts and evidence.
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