New HKR stand looks like it will be great when it's finished. I'm more worried about our own stadium, we obviously aren't going to be moving as we have no money but the full planning permission, couldn't cas maybe sell that planning permission to try and redevelop wheldon road? For me it's the only option.

It annoys me a bit how it's all to do with the stadia nowadays, I mean cas (without meaning to sound biased) have one of the best youth developments in the league with internationalss like Shenton and Westerman coming through the ranks and many more that have excelled. We also get one of the best crowd if not the best crowd per population, so it infuriates me how its all encircled around the stadium aspect.

Do you realise that the planned stadium at Newmarket can be used by teams in the district that also includes Cas Tigers and Fev ? Wakey will be anchor tennants.

I don't believe that it is all 'stadium focused'. The stadium is one box to be ticked, but was an area which a number of clubs realised that they were way, way behind.

Franchising isn't, or shouldn't have been, something that made clubs realise that their infrastructure was falling behind the times and holding their businesses back. Whilst it's admittedly easier for some clubs than others, the fact that we have clubs like Hull and Wigan playing in EPL standard stadia and clubs like Leeds and Warrington playing out of facilities that are open and/or generating revenue 365 days a year, the attitude must surely be "we need to improve infrastructure to ensure that our business remains competitive and can grow" rather than "we need to improve infrastructure so that we keep our licence".

I dont think that you will be able to sell the PP, although if there was another RL team or Football team interested then maybe there could be the prospect of a deal.
Concerning stadium criteria to remain in SL, the one sure thing is that the "franchise" system that was used last time around is in tatters and therefore there is likely to be a change before 2015.
What is of more concern, for the clubs at the lower end of SL, is the prospect of a reduction in numbers within SL, plus uncertainty over the
Broncos.
IMO there could be a reductiion to 12 clubs and there is still plenty of noise about Toulouse, so anything could happen !
The big 4 are safe, plus Catalan, plus Bradford but, even Mystic Meg couldnt predict where we will be in 2015.

Not good if you're coming in by public transport, though. Which is the exact same problem we've now got at Salford.

Still, it's good to see the development happening, I hope it works out better for you than it has for us!

Indeed but remind me again what has been the constant and overwhelming reaction from the club (Cas) and their fans over such an idea?

It would take a climbdown of biblical proportions for it to happen.

Fair point but it's on a main road and well served by buses and it is only 3 1/2 miles from the bus station as opposed to the 2 miles which is the case for BV.. Also the club has stated it will look at this issue and hopefully persuade Arriva to add extra busses on match day. You could walk it in less than an hour assuming you don't stop at too many of the many pubs on route



However in the modern era most fans arrive by car and in this respect NM will be a vast improvement. More winners and losers I'm afraid.

Correct in more ways than one, very bitter pill to swallow.

It would - and we would have to sell the Wheldon Road ground for us to be able to pay the rent at Newmarket.

This is one of those non facts that have gained some kind of credibility without any real evidence especially on a certain other forum.

As someone involved in NM as far as I'm aware no tenant costs have been set as yet. When they are they will be set by the Trust not the developer - it is not in the trusts interest to make them prohibitive or to gain financially from them. That is the genius of the Trust and the Community Stadium. Unlike at Salford??? as far as I'm aware the stadium will not be owned by Yorkcourt but will be owned and run by the trust. The developer is building the stadium as part of the deal to build the much bigger and lucrative Industrial/retail park from which they will get their profit. If anything I would expect Cas to pay less than Wakey though Wakey would get more benefits being the anchor tenant.

As for selling W/R - well you would, who would need two grounds when the new one gives you absolutely everything you need.

I doubt being at NM would cost much more than it costs to play at WR or BV overall and assuming there is a positive public response which doesn't seem to have been the case at Salford - Leigh I don't know much about - however unlike W/R and B/V the cost at N/M will be fixed making budgeting and cash flow easier.

At the end of the day N/M is no use to anyone empty.

All good points there Vasty - the only problem would be selling it to the fans (me included). NM is seen as Wakey - the enemy's territory - and it would be then seen as the way to a merger.