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I think that 2013 will be a big season for the game and it is time to have some ambition in terms of marketing the sport properly :

- SBW and Folau have returned in Australia - how much is SBW in a New Zealand shirt worth in RLWC ticket sales - just down to his sheer X Factor - 40,000 at Elland Road for the Bulldogs v Rhinos WCC etc

- the NRL cleans up in Australia - its main sponsor, Telstra being the equivalent of BT - watch an NRL game and all the sponsors are A list as RL is the Premier League equivalent in Australia. Even the balls are sponsored by Powerade.

- BBC Sport are in Salford - a natural win in terms of raising the profile

- even in the UK, there are lots of Northern headquartered substantial concerns - Peel Holdings, Leeds Building Society, Skipton Building Society, Tetleys, Yorkshire Bank - who should share the values of the game

- the RL demographic appeals to Irn Bru (Barrs), Gillette - there must be other mainstream banks (HSBC, Lloyds) whose customer base is predominantly a RL audience - middle income families with savings/deposit accounts

- the World Cup is a huge opportunity on the back of the Olympics - provided it is a big event based on the 2008 template in Australia

Time to bang the drum and market the Sinfields, Halls, Tomkins and Watkins as ambassadors for the game and role models - to which sponsors can be aligned

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: The Lucky Black Cat "Take it you have not watched much Rugby League then as the likes of Israel Folau and Greg Ingis are better athletes than Money Bill Williams. And if you look at Williams record when playing for the Doggies he missed many weeks due to injury! When Williams was good he was quality but he also had some very bad games and cost his team games. Having played Union for the past 4 years his League skill will have been weakened and the famous shoulder charge he had/has is more or less out of the NRL now after last season. And while he may be a box office he also has upset many with his big mouth and conduct. A number of players, fans etc dont want him in the NRL and he has hardly spoke highly of the game of Rugby League with him saying he regrets making the agreement etc. I dont think he will make the NZ squad as his heart is not 100% in it. NZ should pick the best squad for them not one that is good for marketing purposes. He also seems more interested in speaking about Boxing and Union than playing for the Roosters let alone NZ.'"


Spot on. He won't get the same level of time and space he enjoyed in Union.....he will be targetted by many opponents, his injury record in League isn't that good and he is 100% motivated by what's best for him. I hope the Kiwis don't pick him unless he proves most of us wrong and does well for the roosters.....and I also reckon he'll be playing Union in France by the time RLWC13 comes around.

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Quote: gutterfax "There are about 160,000 fans who REGULARLY attend RL games in the UK....the trick isn't to market to these people...the trick is to grow their numbers.......because although those 160,000 are club loyal, they patently aren't "game"loyal, as the recent international attendances would point to.

SBW and his like, are all well and good, but they aren't going to convince a Bradford City or Leeds United fan to come and watch RL.....'"

I agree in principle, but are there really 160k who attend games, this including the juniors and lower grades?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: No Top Lip "I agree in principle, but are there really 160k who attend games, this including the juniors and lower grades?'"

If you ignore the sometimes outlandish claims of 4,500 travelling away fans, then I reckon there's between 140,000-160,000 ATTENDING fans in the UK.

Rounds 6 and 7 last year saw 133,000 in attendance....8 and 9 nearer 144,000.....add to this the Championships, amateur games, student/age groups etc and I reckon I'm not that far wrong.......there will be a few Thousand fans based in the London area that only attend 1 game a year...when their hometown play the Broncos as well as 'a few more that are fairweather fans, who only attend marquee games....

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Quote: gutterfax "If you ignore the sometimes outlandish claims of 4,500 travelling away fans, then I reckon there's between 140,000-160,000 ATTENDING fans in the UK.

Rounds 6 and 7 last year saw 133,000 in attendance....8 and 9 nearer 144,000.....add to this the Championships, amateur games, student/age groups etc and I reckon I'm not that far wrong.......there will be a few Thousand fans based in the London area that only attend 1 game a year...when their hometown play the Broncos as well as 'a few more that are fairweather fans, who only attend marquee games....'"

Surely that’s a fairly low estimate. I think there will be a hell of a lot more who attend a game in any one season.
If you take Leeds for example, averaging around 14/15k, but will get up to 18/19k for some games but about 11k season ticket holders, plus there will be some churn of those over the season. I wouldn’t be surprised if the number was closer to 250/300k different fans will attend at least one game in a season.

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Absolutely spot on - well said.

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