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| Quote: Barnabus "Using this logic, there's no point in England ever playing Australia in a series. What do Australia get out of playing England?
Infact, may as well just announce the RLWC final as Aus v NZ. What's the point eh.'"
Absolutely! That's the the thing, this is sound logic and it's about time we faced the facts, return to touring as the 'Lions' and just play the Aussies and NZ.
It's going to take 20-30 year's to develop a strong European International tournament and at present, England seem to be stuck in a wedge between World Class International RL (Aussies/NZ), and p**s poor RL (Every other International team).
We should be inviting PNG to tour for a change....I just want something different!
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| My two penneth
Overall, this series was what it was always going to be. On the field an England win with the opportunity for McNamara to get his squad together for a decent length of time and find some confidence by getting a few wins and running in some tries (I also thought they were pretty determined in defence on Saturday for a game they were always going to win so clearly he is injecting a bit of pride in the shirt). Off the field, it was a chance to get international League in the media and make as many references to next year’s world cup as possible
In both cases, pretty much job done
On the selection front:
Full back jersey is Tomkins barring injury and despite a few defensive weakness is a real threat with the ball. Hardaker is improving quickly and is a very capable backup
Agree with many that we have the best options on the wing than we have had for years – probably since the Offiah/Robinson days. Hall is nailed on and I still prefer Briscoe to Charnley as he brings the ball away from his own 22 stronger against better defences and that’s going to be key against the big guns. Having said that, I would have no problem with Charnley in the team as he is a very good winger
For me, Watkins has sealed the right centre spot – again some defensive weaknesses to work on but if we are to win the big games, he has attacking game to turn matches. Cudjoe probably didn’t do enough to hold onto his spot with competition from Atkins and Reed and I would go with Reed for his all round game
We may as well stop debating the Sinfield role – he has just played the last three international games as captain and half back and we have also played our last international game before the World Cup starts. Like it or not, he will be the first half back on the team sheet. With Sinfield at 6, the question is who else in the halves – I thought Myler played well and didn’t deserve to be dropped for the final but clearly McNamara sees Chase as a man to add something extra to the team. I am not sure and didn’t think he has a great game on Sunday – pickig a team today, I would go with Myler but I do think that a year from now Lomax will be in with a shout as he is developing a very good all round game. Brough blows too hot and cold for me, on his day he is great but that day is not often enough
Widdop would be in the team at stand off if Sinfield were not there but I am not sure if they are suited to play together. Widdop would be in the squad no doubt
In the front row, I would go with Hill, Graham, Burgess and one other in the 17. At the moment, that is probably Mossop but Crabtree has never let anybody down in an England jersey and a year from now I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see George Burgess pushing for a full England spot if he gets some decent NRL game time as I expect. Morley should be around the squad but I don’t think he is right for the 17 now
Can’t look past Roby for the hooking role and I would have Burrow on the bench over McIlorum
Ellis and Westwood for the second row – Hock can be devastating on his day but (like McIlorum) he is liable to give away too many stupid penalties. Perhaps the same can be said for Westwood but I think he adds more to the team than the other two. I thought that Jones-Buchanan was very good this series but he lacks size to be effective against Australia and New Zealand, same for Jon Wilkin and Liam Farrell
Once again, O’Loughlin has played well in an England shirt and with Sinfield in the halves he is a lock in for loose forward
Ablett gets some bad press on these boards but his versatility could warrant a bench spot (another option could be Widdop)
So, I would go for
Tomkins
Briscoe (Charnley)
Watkins
Reed
Hall
Sinfield
Myler (Lomax)
Graham
Roby
S. Burgess
Westwood
Ellis
O’Loughlin
Hill
G. Burgess
Burrow
Ablett/Widdop
And finally... a successful World Cup with an England win would be the best thing to happen to our sport for the last 40 years and do wonders for the profile of the sport. Any RL administrator or fan, regardless of club or political bias, should do everything they can to make this happen
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| Quote: Dunbar "My two penneth
Overall, this series was what it was always going to be. On the field an England win with the opportunity for McNamara to get his squad together for a decent length of time and find some confidence by getting a few wins and running in some tries (I also thought they were pretty determined in defence on Saturday for a game they were always going to win so clearly he is injecting a bit of pride in the shirt). Off the field, it was a chance to get international League in the media and make as many references to next year’s world cup as possible
In both cases, pretty much job done
On the selection front
Pretty much agree with all of that word for word. Really frustrating regarding the half back role. I believe we have an international 6 in Widdop, but Mcnamara seems to have decided Sinfield is to have that shirt which weakens our attacking threat IMHO.
I've said it all along, Sinfield should be in the squad, doing the organsing and kicking, but from 13. Don't buy the argument he's not big enough, he's one of the best defenders in the game.
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| Sinfield plays 7 and more to the right (whatever is on his back), Widdop plays 6 and is on the left. I'm liable to change my mind all the time but that seems like the best combo for me atm.
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| Quote: Madderzahatter "God i'm sick of people whinging and moaning about this series. The majority of northern hemisphere international rugby union is a joke (teams are average at best) but that didn't stop huge crowds watching all those beatings dished out over the weekend.
And, McNamara's going to be in charge for the World cup so we all better get used to it and just get behind the team...'"
NO IT IS NOT - YOU ARE WRONG
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| Quote: Budgiezilla "
NO IT IS NOT - YOU ARE WRONG'"
The last 6 nations was gash.
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