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| The crazy thing about this 'concern for reffing bias against Catalans' is that there [uwasn't any bias against Catalans on Friday night[/u
Penalty Count: 15-7 in their favour
Errors against: one forward pass leading to a try, one offside not given (intedeterminate result), McGuire not sin binned
Errors for: Played-at ball by Dureau not given (catalans try resulted). Fakir not sent off for elbow to Delaneys face, multiple high tackles not given.
I'm quite prepared to say Thaler was god-awful (he was), but there was no distinct bias against one side or another. Leeds should have been a try down, so should Catalans. Leeds should have had a player in the bin, Catalans should have had a player off.
The only way the Wigan fans on this thread, and on previous threads, have dealt with the facts of the game. Nowhere, at any stage, have I seen a wigan fan who believes there was a horrible pro-leeds bias, address the above examples, except to put their fingers in their ears and shout ever louder about how 'mickey mac was unfairly done'.
If Wigan fans would like to address the PC in Catalans' favour, and the above examples, feel free. But if you can't, don't try.
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| Quote Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan="Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan"
Penalty Count: 15-7 in their favour
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Penalty count has nothing to do with it. It's missed penalties not given, and non-penaltys given as penaltys that count. Hypothetically, if the penalty count should really have been 30-5, does that not state that the penalty count, although lop-sided, was not indicative of the game? I'm not saying that 30-5 should have been the count, just using it as an example - that's what "hypothetically" means
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Errors against: one offside not given (intedeterminate result), McGuire not sin binned
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Should have been sent off, not binned - that was the error. He wasn't even binned. As for the offside, it was on the goal line during a period of heavy pressure. If they'd scored, it could have changed the complexion, and maybe the outcome, of the game. Should have been a sin bin for Peacock for the offside as well, after about 4 or 5 persistent penalties in a row.
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Errors for: Fakir not sent off for elbow to Delaneys face
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Except it wasn't an elbow, and it wasn't initial contact into the face. The disciplinary looked at it and deemed penalty sufficient. That says to me that the ref got it right on the night.
On the other hand, they've called McGuire up, with a charge carrying a penalty of 1-2 games, suggesting that the ref got it badly wrong on the night.
Does that address the issues well enough for you? 
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| I look forward to the collective apoplexy, derision, insults etc, and demands for sendings off for the first Wigan player to commit a foul on Friday night from Wigan fans, im sure we will definitely see it. I’m sure we wont hear one Wigan fan say something along the lines of ‘its not wendyball’ when someone claims a Wigan player should have been sent off or sinbinned. Im sure we wont see any justification for a high shot on Burrow that he was falling, changing direction etc, Im sure the Wigan fans will be up and on top and cheering the referee clamping down on their slowing of the ptb, and lord help us from the sheer bile and fury which will be launched by Wigan fans against any Wigan player who dares disgrace their club, thier country, their family and the great game of rugby league buy obstructing at a kick,
lest some Wigan fans appear as massive hypocrites.
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| I doubt Wigan fans are any better or worse in that regard than any other team's supporters.
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| Quote Should have been sent off, not binned - that was the error. He wasn't even binned. As for the offside, it was on the goal line during a period of heavy pressure. If they'd scored, it could have changed the complexion, and maybe the outcome, of the game. Should have been a sin bin for Peacock for the offside as well, after about 4 or 5 persistent penalties in a row.'"
And Dureau should have been back to 6, so Catalans would never have been 6 down anyway, maybe 12 down as, by your own logic, Leeds were pressuring the Catalans line. You can't say 'it would have changed the complexion of the game' as if that means the result alters, and while ignoring other, similar events.
Quote Except it wasn't an elbow, and it wasn't initial contact into the face. The disciplinary looked at it and deemed penalty sufficient. That says to me that the ref got it right on the night.'"
And that decision's a joke, Fakir clearly raises the elbow as he enters the tackle, he is looking at Delaney's face and he guides his elbow in. It was a disgusting piece of play, not an attempt to fend or make a tackle, but to prevent himself from being tackled by injuring the tackler. No binning, let alone a ban, an absolute disgrace.
I'd also add that it was Fakir that, 30 seconds later, dragged Burrow down by the throat when he was otherwise through & in for a try. So that might have 'changed the complexion of the game'.
If you want to be harsh on-field, you've got to be harsh everywhere. The end result is that Leeds & Catalans both have a try chalked off, and are both a man down with 20 minutes to go.
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| Quote bikerpie="bikerpie"I doubt Wigan fans are any better or worse in that regard than any other team's supporters.'"
But Deano G has been telling us that Wigan fans are in a unique position as, being supporters of "the greatest club in the game we tend to be interested in the wider good of the game more than supporters of other clubs".
We all know it's true - they are widely respected for their magnanimity on those rare occasions when they are defeated. They follow the shining example set by their head coach, who is in all instances the epitome of dignity.
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| Quote MjM="MjM"One of the biggest things in Leeds' favour next weekend is the obsession the entire Wigan club has with them. From Wane down you all appear quite unbalanced and if that isn't channelled properly it could unravel completely in the biggest game of the year so far.'"
[urlhttp://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12211/8111748/[/url
[urlhttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/mcguire-s-suspension-highlights-system-s-defects-says-hetherington-1-4961766[/url
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| Don’t both of those arguments actually support the whinging and moaning about the referees and disciplinary committee we have had to put up with from Wigan fans for the last couple of weeks?
Only Wigan and their fans could bitch and whine for two weeks, find somebody that agrees with their complaints, then have a go at them for agreeing with them, they are like a schizophrenic teenage girl, Im half expecting that Wane’s interview at the end of the game on Friday to end with him screaming ‘ I hate you all, nobody understands me’ before running back to the changing rooms, slamming the door shut and cry into a pillow whilst listening to One direction and refusing to eat his tea.
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[urlhttp://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12211/8111748/[/url
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Looks to me like the pressure's telling on the Whinos!
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Not sure what's funny, some very resonable points raised there.
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| Quote Deano G="Deano G"[urlhttp://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12211/8111748/[/url
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I find the comment about Anderson ' dipping ' into the tackle an interesting one , quite how anbody is expected to legitimatley tackle Burrows when he trys to duck under every tackle attempted on him , unless you are already on your knees it is simply impossible to tackle the midget
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Don’t both of those arguments actually support the whinging and moaning about the referees and disciplinary committee we have had to put up with from Wigan fans for the last couple of weeks?
Only Wigan and their fans could bitch and whine for two weeks, find somebody that agrees with their complaints, then have a go at them for agreeing with them, they are like a schizophrenic teenage girl, Im half expecting that Wane’s interview at the end of the game on Friday to end with him screaming ‘ I hate you all, nobody understands me’ before running back to the changing rooms, slamming the door shut and cry into a pillow whilst listening to One direction and refusing to eat his tea.'"
I'll think you'll find that most Wigan fans think Leeds have been very favourably treated - (a) McGuire should have been sent off in the first place and (b) a one match ban looks lenient. And it wasn't just Wigan fans that were unhappy. I suggest you send an open letter to the Perpignan local newspaper outlining your views that complaints by Wigan fans about the refereeing of the game were wrong, I'm sure you would stir up a hornet's nest of angry responses from Catalans fans outraged at what went on... Trent Robinson has already made his views known....
Finally, I'm not sure that "schizophrenic teenage girl" reference is appropriate, but then sexual stereotypes and unnecessary references to the mentally ill aren't my bag. 
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