Quote: jimlav "Well done for having drastically missed the point of my post and having a rant about whatever you wanted to read.
At which point did I say that having the magic weekend or new stadiums were bad things? They are great positives for our game as a whole. Why would I argue having new, modern day stadia is a negative.'"
I didnt say that you said these things where negative, i said you were using them to attempt to mitigate the achievement of increasing crowds. Which you were, and which you are going to go on to do below. And it is still a ridiculously nonsensical argument.
Quote: jimlav "My arguement is that this is one year. We have achieved records, but they are records that do not reflect the state of our game. As I have said, fans (both home and away) may go to these new grounds to experience it. After that they may never go again to that ground, or may go less regularly because they have already been. You may well find that next season these figures drop.
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how in the name of all f@ckery does a record not actually reflect the state of the game. It is the state of the game, it is unarguably the state of the game. It is, by definition, by god, jesus, allah, moses and Bob Marley, a god-damned record of the game. It is a comparison, a relative figure, it is the only actual, real, measurement of the people watching the game. You may wish to write a narrative where this changes by some indeterminate amount at some unspecified time in the future because it fits your pre-existing bias but anyone with even a little brain in their head can see what a futile circular argument that is.
Quote: jimlav "With Bradford, the attendances were boosted by the financial problems they had. Fans got together and made and effort(which was good to see) to help the club out, but the same won't be true next season. Dont think anyone can argue this was a positive over all as it took us nearly losing a club to boost the gates.'"
Yet Bradfords average was lower this year than last year, and wasnt a record for Bradford. So we can strip that monkey-brained argument out straight away.
Quote: jimlav "Don't get me wrong, I am especially happy with clubs like Wakefield, they have marketed the club excellently, and have gained supporters who are likely to stay long term. This is the difference between this sort of growth and they other types of growth I can see, this is likely to last (hopefully continue) the other types I can see being a one off. '"
The other types you hope are a one off, because it isnt you will have to admit you dont know what the hell you are on about, you were completely wrong, the RFL knew and know more than you and your complaints were not only stupid and pointless but actively counter-productive.
Quote: jimlav "It is easy to see record crowds and just think 'brilliant' but you have to look at longer term stability of that growth. What we don't want to see is this as a one year high with a series of one off events that contribute towards a strong year, we want year on year growth. '"
You mean like an average in 2009 of 8864, 2010 of 9615, 2012 10169. Do your research.
Quote: jimlav "We have a product that is just about the most entertaining out there, but as a sport we undersell it. If every club made the effort to market their games like certain clubs have, with contribution from the rfl (like this new campaign they have going on) the game can grow. But to look at this yers figures and thik 'great all is good' is just totally wrong.
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Yeah, dont bother with facts, just make it up.
Quote: jimlav "If any one can honestly tell me they think the rfl and the clubs (and many people often forget the role the clubs have to play in this) are doing the best possible job to market this sport the I will be happy. But i live within a short drive from 2 clubs when a uni and have never EVER been the contacted in any way (flyers, phone calls or promotions in town). When I am at my family home I am not in what you would call the heartland, just outside in the Preston/Blackburn/Bolton area and again, never once have I ever been the subject of some form of promotion our game. This in my opinion is a massive own goal by our game. There is massive untapped market here, but it has been ignored for my whole lifetime.
I think there is much much more this sport can do. And from people I know and talk to, many are getting upset at the way the game is run.'"
There is a difference between 'could do better' and the 'woe is me, the sky is falling in, the game is ruined, we are all going to die' nonsense you are peddling.