What we'll find out by this process is if all clubs are treated equally, if Bradford come out of admin like Wakefield did and rebuild in that way, 4 point deduction seems fair

If they go into liquidation, I don't know what other option but relegation. If this was Widnes (my team), Castleford, Salford, Wakefield, London there'd be no debate and people would expect it, and there'd be no arguments. Just because Bradford were one of the "big four" does not give them the right to circumvent the consequences of bad management that led to liquidation

But that's not what we're talking about, is it? We're talking about what happens if the current Bulls club is liquidated and a newco applies to join in their place. In that situation the power to say yes or no lies ONLY with the club chairmen - just as when the newco London club was admitted.

If they go into liquidation, there's no club left to relegate and all bets are off.

The RFL don't have a veto. They do have a vote. If 8 clubs vote against a newco then they aren't coming in. If the vote is tied I believe that the RFL can then make an additional deciding vote one way or the other.

Quote Kosh="Kosh"The RFL don't have a veto. They do have a vote. If 8 clubs vote against a newco then they aren't coming in. If the vote is tied I believe that the RFL can then make an additional deciding vote one way or the other.'" I think the RFL not only have the deciding vote, but also Les Catalans vote in these matters, Though i will try and find a more respectable source [iFive clubs are prepared to vote against them entering the competition as a new company. Two more are needed to reject the proposal — although the RFL have the power of veto and can admit the club.[/i www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -axed.html

Quote Kosh="Kosh"The RFL don't have a veto. They do have a vote. If 8 clubs vote against a newco then they aren't coming in. If the vote is tied I believe that the RFL can then make an additional deciding vote one way or the other.'" I think the RFL not only have the deciding vote, but also Les Catalans vote in these matters, Though i will try and find a more respectable source [iFive clubs are prepared to vote against them entering the competition as a new company. Two more are needed to reject the proposal — although the RFL have the power of veto and can admit the club.[/i www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -axed.html

Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"I think the RFL not only have the deciding vote, but also Les Catalans vote in these matters, Though i will try and find a more respectable source [iFive clubs are prepared to vote against them entering the competition as a new company. Two more are needed to reject the proposal — although the RFL have the power of veto and can admit the club.[/i www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -axed.html'" Of course Catalan can vote - they're a member of SL. The RFL do not have a power of veto. Think about it logically - if they alone had the power of veto what would be the point in having a vote at all? The sun are confusing a veto with a deciding vote. And that's also why 8 'no' votes are required and not the 7 quoted.

Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"I think the RFL not only have the deciding vote, but also Les Catalans vote in these matters, Though i will try and find a more respectable source [iFive clubs are prepared to vote against them entering the competition as a new company. Two more are needed to reject the proposal — although the RFL have the power of veto and can admit the club.[/i www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -axed.html'" Of course Catalan can vote - they're a member of SL. The RFL do not have a power of veto. Think about it logically - if they alone had the power of veto what would be the point in having a vote at all? The sun are confusing a veto with a deciding vote. And that's also why 8 'no' votes are required and not the 7 quoted.

Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"I think the RFL not only have the deciding vote, but also Les Catalans vote in these matters, Though i will try and find a more respectable source [iFive clubs are prepared to vote against them entering the competition as a new company. Two more are needed to reject the proposal — although the RFL have the power of veto and can admit the club.[/i www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -axed.html'" This isn't true. Nigel Wood was asked this in the last couple of days - the clubs do not have the power to vote on if the Bulls return to Super League. They do however have the power to vote on how many teams are in the franchise. Any decision on if we remain in Super League will be made by the RFL board.

Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"I think the RFL not only have the deciding vote, but also Les Catalans vote in these matters, Though i will try and find a more respectable source [iFive clubs are prepared to vote against them entering the competition as a new company. Two more are needed to reject the proposal — although the RFL have the power of veto and can admit the club.[/i www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -axed.html'" This isn't true. Nigel Wood was asked this in the last couple of days - the clubs do not have the power to vote on if the Bulls return to Super League. They do however have the power to vote on how many teams are in the franchise. Any decision on if we remain in Super League will be made by the RFL board.

Semantics. If the Bulls get liquidated then SL becomes a 13 team league, so any newco will need the vote of the club chairmen to be admitted.

If the Bulls survive administration then the clubs don't get a vote at all.

Semantics......NO IT DOESN'T. SuperLeague will still be a 14 team league but with one space on the rosta. As there is no change to the structure/rules it will be the RFL that decides. The RFL will of course talk to the clubs as it will be far easier for them to make a decision knowing what support they have from the other clubs.

Dont have strong feelings either way. Bulls voted to kick us out (broncos) and their crowds are falsely inflated by v cheap tickets so not as big a club as some think. But Bradford is the 8th biggest city in England and that gives them huge potential compared to the likes of Fev or Leigh.

Does anyone really have any idea how it actually works?

I know i'm confused, theres conflicting information from all angles.

-[iOH it's the RFL they have carte blanche over any rulings should they see fit
-It's the super league clubs, they vote and ultimatly decide
-No it's both, the clubs and rfl all vote
-If the clubs vote and the rfl don't like it they can veto it
-The only time the clubs can vote is if they liquidate and eventually need to be voted back in[/i

Theres just so much uncertainty and confusion about the whole debacle. God only knows what the players and staff must be thinking, this is how they earn their living and it's all up in the air.

What happens with the fixtures if bulls liquidate? What is the process for voting them out/in? is that even a possibility if they don't liquidate?

We need some answers from the RFL. No one knows what the hells going on. They've just sat there and watched this whole mess unfold.

They need to come out and say look, this is the procedure for this eventuality, this is what happens should that come to pass. At least then everyone knows where they stand.

It seems like they are just going to make it up as they go along 'cross that bridge when we come to it' (which wouldn't suprise me at all.