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Quote: Dico "What?? Hudds played Leeds after taking an absolute pasting around the paddock from us. Im sure it'd have been a better game at the galpharm in week one than the flat affair that took place in week 2. It's all opinion but I think Hudds were at a disadvantage coming to us in week one as opposed to playing leeds at home'"


Or they could of used the Wire defeat as a serious wake up call, had they faced Leeds in week 1 they could well of put in just as much a poor performance as they did against Warrington. As for the flat affair that took place instead in Week 2, Leeds took a 16-0 lead before being pegged back to 16-12 then surged ahead again to a 34-12 lead before Hudds scored 3 tries in the last 10 mins to get within 6 points @ 34-28, hardly flat was that game.

You could also say Leeds (4th) were at a disadvantage going away to 1st place Wigan in 2010, except they showed up and won. The playoffs format didn't let Huddersfield down they let themselves down (as did Warrington, Wigan, Catalans, Hull & Hull KR), Saints were in that same situation as Hudds (a week 1 away game to a top 2 team) and they reached the Grand Final. Catalans faced the same situation as Leeds but they didn't get 'rewarded'. The real problem with the playoffs is that in the last 4 or 5 years only Leeds, Saints and Wigan have truely gone into the playoffs with the right attitude and belief that they can win it no matter what fixtures they faced, until more teams approach it with the same genuine 'Yes we can win this' frame of mind then it doesn't matter what format the playoffs are.

I've heard a bucket load of complaints since last years GF about how the 8 team playoffs reward mediocre teams, when infact in the first 2 years of its introduction the top 2 teams have gone on to contest the GF ('09 Leeds v Saints....'10 Wigan v Saints) the 1st place team winning both times, so how about until this 'rewarding mediocrity' theory is proven to be more than just a one off can people calm down and stop making out as if its the norm.

Funnily enough i remember when Leeds & Saints contested the '07, '08, '09 Finals after both teams finished in the top 2 spots everytime, that you had fans complaining that it was boring that the top 2 ended up contesting the GF everytime and how they would like to see someone from outside the top 2 reach a GF for a change. Also the Aussies lovers over here who love copying everything they do wanted us to copy them with a top 8 playoffs and people wanted to see other clubs get the oppotunity and experience of playoff rugby instead of the usual same teams.

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Quote: Conroy "If you win your games then you do. In round 1 the top 4 sides basically play for home advantage which I have no problem with. '"



Thats the problem, as clubs are playing 27 games and 8 months of slog to basically get home advantage in a game, to play for home advantage in a semi final!!!

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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "Not a fan at all of losing teams going through to the next round. In your suggestion you could end up with the same fixture in Week 1 and 3, which is what ruins the intensity and excitement of the POs imo. Repeat fixtures in the POs has got to be a big no no.'"


Agreed, for me the likelihood of repeat fixtures it IMO the main reason why the first 2 rounds of the P/O are so poorly attended. If we went to a top 5/7 straight knockout series with top spot getting week one off, the playoffs would only take 3 weeks rather than 4 and would therefore free up another weekend throughout the season. If they really want to look at making the Exiles a 3 game series or even a extended WCC then doing this would surely favour one of those.

For me there are 2 major changes that need making to the English RL calendar ASAP; the format of of the playoffs and the ridiculous scheduling of the Challenge Cup.

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IN the first few years of the playoffs I don't think they were as poorly attended. The first few time we played Saints in the playoffs we got 18,000 - 22,000 crowds on. Now we struggle to get 12,000.

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Quote: Dougy "IN the first few years of the playoffs I don't think they were as poorly attended. The first few time we played Saints in the playoffs we got 18,000 - 22,000 crowds on. Now we struggle to get 12,000.'"


That's because the format is pants (well, probably more the economic climate which I also blame the RFL for)

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Playoff attendances against Saints at Robin Park:

2000: 19,200(top 5)
2001: 19,300(top 5)
2003: 21,900(top 6)
2004: 20,100(top 6)

then suddenly
2011: 12,900(top 8 )

I agree the format is pants.

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