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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Leeds' petulance is understandable. They are a struggling team and were getting battered. Their indiscretions were also (mostly) picked up by the referee or caused by a well known numpty in Bailey.
Tomkins' behaviour was just very odd from the start. He's playing really well, so why does he need to descend to those levels? What was the point for example of his unnecessary involvement on JJB that put the player in such a horrible position? Why did he feel the need to do that? If that act caused a serious knee injury to the Leeds player, which it could very easily have done, would Wane be happy if his best player was sitting out several weeks?
He's a world class player who is in danger of letting himself down because he can't help himself. He had done well in sorting the petulant side of his game out until today.'"
Its called 100% passion and commitment to the teams cause.
Something you probably dont understand as a Skints fan just now.
And lets be honest, even as a career 'wigan-hater' i bet you'd happily swap 10 of your first 13 to have Sam Tomkins attired in the Red Vee. 
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| Quote Leyland Warrior="Leyland Warrior"Its called 100% passion and commitment to the teams cause.
Something you probably dont understand as a Skints fan just now.
And lets be honest, even as a career 'wigan-hater' i bet you'd happily swap 10 of your first 13 to have Sam Tomkins attired in the Red Vee.
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I don't hate Wigan. I think Tomkins is a great player. If you can delay his move to your business partners till he's 30 I've no doubt he'll become the best British fullback ever. But what he did to JJB was still very dangerous and very deliberate.
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| Quote TheElectricGlidingWarrior="TheElectricGlidingWarrior" Nothing to do with Leeds struggling, it's how they have always played and how they play regardless of the score in any specific game. '" God bless you I think you actually believe this stuff  I bet you're one of the Pie Munchers who thinks Danny "nicest man in Rugby League" McGuire is the antichrist too 
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| Webb is the WORST full-back in Super League, and thats no exaggeration. Offers nothing going forward (apart from a bulleted forward pass when joining the line) and, as has been noted on this thread previously, is an absolute disciplinary disaster. I can't remember him being effective since his first season in SL. Surely no coach in their right mind will pick him up for next season. Leeds would look immeasureably better with a reliable old stager like Shaun Briscoe at the back. Or even Michael Platt. Thats how bad Webb is.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"I don't hate Wigan. I think Tomkins is a great player. If you can delay his move to your business partners till he's 30 I've no doubt he'll become the best British fullback ever. But what he did to JJB was still very dangerous and very deliberate.'"
I absolutely dont agree with the JJB thing (obviously).....But 100% agree ref Sam.
And i doubt Sarries will be our 'business partners' for much longer, now Faz has jumped ship!
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| Quote Jim Bergerac="Jim Bergerac"Webb is the WORST full-back in Super League, and thats no exaggeration. Offers nothing going forward (apart from a bulleted forward pass when joining the line) and, as has been noted on this thread previously, is an absolute disciplinary disaster. I can't remember him being effective since his first season in SL. Surely no coach in their right mind will pick him up for next season. Leeds would look immeasureably better with a reliable old stager like Shaun Briscoe at the back. Or even Michael Platt. Thats how bad Webb is.'"
Hyperbole much?
I agree, he's getting to be a bit of a liability now, but it's wrong to say he was only effective in his first year in Super League. He's been a good player for us.
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| Quote Jim Bergerac="Jim Bergerac"Webb is the WORST full-back in Super League, and thats no exaggeration. Offers nothing going forward (apart from a bulleted forward pass when joining the line) and, as has been noted on this thread previously, is an absolute disciplinary disaster. I can't remember him being effective since his first season in SL. Surely no coach in their right mind will pick him up for next season. Leeds would look immeasureably better with a reliable old stager like Shaun Briscoe at the back. Or even Michael Platt. Thats how bad Webb is.'"
He's obviously not as bad a fullback as you are a judge of the game.
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| Whetever Tomkins did last night, as usual Bailey and Webb were the two biggest nigglers on the pitch, Bailey's face rub near the end of the first half being typical stupidity and handing Wigan a try on a plate. Very impressive performance from Wigan who continue to be the best side in SL this year.
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| Quote Leyland Warrior="Leyland Warrior"Its called 100% passion and commitment to the teams cause.
Something you probably dont understand as a Skints fan just now.'"
That attempted tackle was not 'passionate' or 'committed', it was reckless and stupid.
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| Amazing performance from Wigan. Simply marvellous.
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| Quote Blobbynator="Blobbynator"That attempted tackle was not 'passionate' or 'committed', it was reckless and stupid.'"
Reckless and stupid is how I would describe Lee Smith kicking Finch in the face. It's also how I'd describe LMS kicking up into McIllorum's face last week. Interestingly these things are only an issue when a certain Wigan player is the culprit.
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