Quote Pepe="Pepe"But comparing last season's attendance's to this years, the way you did, neither proves that licencing is doing it, or that we wouldn't be getting higher gates should we bring back P&R. It doesn't mean that P&R doesn't put bums on seats.'"
I didnt compare last seasons attendances to this. I simply said that it was easily provable whether or not P+R puts bums on seats. You argument is just a circular argument based on your preexisting prejudice. Whatever cause you want to attribute the recent rise in attendance to, we know it isnt P+R. We know this because there is no positve correlation between attendances and P+R being in effect. There is in fact a negative correlation between attendances and P+R. Now i can accept that this doesnt prove a correlation between P+R and lower attendances, it does, without doubt, show no correlation between P+R and higher attendances.
Quote PepeIt may make little difference to the best supported clubs at the top of Super League, but the battle for relegation would give several teams something to really play for. That does generate interest amongst fans, neutrals and the media. So the bottom half of the SL table and the lower leagues would see an increase in support.
With those lower end clubs battling it out, it raises the standard of the competition and that would be good for SL. It would help the lower end clubs grow their attendances and that will give them better finances to continually improve their standards.
The season is all but over for the bottom 4 clubs and there is little but pride to play for. All they'll get coming to watch that is it's die hards. Because there is just nothing riding on these games. That game, a few years back, between Wakey and Cas for their battle to stay up was a sellout and attracted a national interest. Do you think that their next meeting will do that?'"
That game. 5 years ago added 3k to Wakefields attendance. There were 13 home games before that only 3 were attended by more than 5k. Their 3 home games prior to that were 5.5k against Leeds, 3.3k against Les Catalands, and 4k against Bradford. The same Bradford side that Wakefield got 9k against in the first game of that same season.
If relegation was so exciting, got so many bums on seats, led to such visibility, then where did 5k fans go who went to see Wakefield V Bradford at the beginning of the season where there was no link to relegation who wouldnt go see Wakefield v Bradford in round 22, their 3rd from last home game of the season with relegation looming.
Quote PepeBradford giving away half price tickets, while in deep financial trouble, seems like lunacy to me. You are probably correct about the pledges though. Bradford, and their fans, are secure in the knowledge that they will never be dropped from the league under the licence system and will get another couple of years to rebuild. Under P&R, they would be in great danger of relegation, should they be forced to sell their best players. I'm not sure if that could be regarded as a ringing endorsement for the system. It's good for Bradford I suppose. That's about it.'"
Its good for RL. Bradford are getting about 11k currently. There isnt a team in the lower leagues who even being optimistic are likely to get even half of that. Bradford go but and drop out of SL that 11k goes to 2k/3k and a team with much less scope is promoted. They average 4k (which isnt enough to run an SL club on sustainably) and the game itself has lost 4k fans who are no longer watching the game, all because Peter Hood isnt competent. Its a good thing that Bradford have the space to reorganise. We would achieve nothing by destroying their visibility, 1st team, youth development and infrastructure
