This is all we hear from the club.

The problem is that it could be said if we had lost every game 100-0, therefore it absolves the coaches from any possible fault.

There is the distinct possibility that much of Widnes's problems are down to poor coaching and poor recruitment which again is the coaches responsibility. If you just say 'it takes time' how do you accurately judge whether anybody is doing a bad job?

Most people assess the way the team are playing and compare it to previous attempts at Super League. The reality is that we have the worst points difference at this stage of any team for 15 years. We have conceded more than 30 points for 15 consecutive games when Featherstone managed to concede less at their first attempt. Although Widnes played better yesterday as well, Featherstone have at least showed that maybe the gap isn't as humongous that Widnes have been making out it is.

To many Widnes fans, it seems more plausible that the unproven and failed Championship coach Denis Betts is a bigger part of the problem than simply a lack of time. One things for certain and that's that we will see. SOC is a stubborn SOB and he won't be sacking him any time soon.

Would it surprise you (and these are SOC words), that we have spent £1.4m on the cap this year?

We'd see how they would feel if their club had the worst points difference of any club for 15 years, regardless of their start.

Put it this way, Widnes's PD at this stage is -339. Catalans in their first season were on -109 at this stage. Even Leigh from 2005 were only -241.

Some Widnes fans think that whilst we only expected between 12th and 14th, we could be putting up a better fight with a more experienced coach and the club are refusing to accept this. Many Widnes fans never wanted Betts in the first place and most were gobsmacked when he was given the SL contract; now we're being asked to stick with sub-par performances in the presumption that improvement will come, when there is no reason to think that it will.

A few fans did 'boycott' the game, but it's important to say that this was instead of cancelling Stronghold. When SOC brought it in he specifically said that if we felt the club aren't performing we can cancel it as a message. This was a much less harmful message.

It's hard getting people to pay for watching dross. This isn't a go at Widnes the club but more a comment about how they are being coached. There just doesn't seem to be any sense of urgency, or determination to put things right. With the players Widnes have, most games should be at least competitive and defence better organised. Betts seems to have written this season off already and O'Connor appears to be backing him.

Wonder how things would have been if relegation were an issue.

Indeed, although, on the plus side, you have time to build a stronger team.

If they have spent the majority of the cap money on the current squad there isn't much that time will do for them.