As I said what a waste of emotional energy. But please don't state that you haven't said something that isn't true. Clearly without being there to physically count the numbers present or conduct an audit on the ticket office sales or season ticket vouchers received at the turnstile your nephew is expressing no more than opinion. Because you have an anti London agenda you have decided to take this opinion as the truth and nothing but the truth. Seriously it will all be over by the end of the 2014 season start looking for another crusade.

On the wider issue, you state that you have seen it done at first hand. Which club? Were you complicit? When was it? What are your sources that the overstatement of crowd numbers happens all the time.

GF no offence but you might as well quit calling it ESL - in reality it's not been the European Super League since 1997, and 13 British teams + 1 French is hardly a 'European' league. Expansion will never take off like some hoped, time to face the truth I'm afraid.

Keighley or York for SL 2013.

That was down to health and safety restrictions or whatever as tickets were like gold dust having been sold out 2/3 weeks in advance.

the same at Gilbert Brutus there was a full house though there were about 200 empty seats in the main stand - this is due to the new hospitality lounge now being open in the new stand and all the sponsors & invited visitors etc spending the game in the lounge rather than in the stand - very nice work if you can get it !

well,before the hospitality lounge was open this season the seats were always occupied by the sponsors, visiting club members and the like ,players & WAGS etc but now it's completely empty - the players not taking part in the game (injured or dropped etc) are usually seconded to the hospitality lounge to look after the sponsors etc - it's good business for the club but strange to see so many empty seats !