Pull ya head in keyboard warrior...there's always one in every forum....... The Cornish DON'T consider themselves "English" yet they arent a country. Ps Dunbell please show me where I said I didn't like the Eng logo muppet!

That is your prerogative but can I ask you why you feel like this though?

I said this on the Wigan board during the 4 nations and got 20 pages of abuse. Loads of people feel like this but they wont admit it

Again, I am really keen to understand not just that you do think this but also why you feel like it. Not to abuse you but to understand it because (as I have stated above), my feelings for England RL are the same as GB RL and I am passionate about both

And I feel more passionate about England than I do about GB. I feel England is a better "brand" in sport than "GB". That doesn't necessarily mean I think that "England RL" is a better brand than "GB RL", because obviously at this stage it won't be. People seem to forget that something new replacing something old is very rarely going to be instantly better. The point is that it has a lot more potential. And it does. The home nations being separate have a ton more of potential than GB ever will simply because there are four teams compared to one.

Even if the result is England are just as competitive as GB were (which they are, GB was England anyway), the fact that there is a Wales, a Scotland and an Ireland means we have more chance to expand, more teams to play without relying on expensive Pacific Island travel, etc.

To me, the only logical reason to want to keep GB is tradition and it being a stronger brand NOW. That is fine, and if you refuse to see any potential benefits from the change then that is your choice and your opinion.

But to refuse to support your national team? It's just stubbornness for the sake of it IMO. It's not going to make a difference. There are many people that would rather support England, and many people that never supported a GB team to cancel you out.

All other reasons (this foreigner rubbish, the stealing of "Scots", "Irish" and "Welsh" players that let's be honest never were "Scottish", "Welsh" or "Irish"icon_wink.gif are just clutching at straws for backing up what essentially is just a personal preference rather than a logical reason.

The only thing I dislike about "England RL" is that the logo is rubbish and the kit is ever changing. It needs a more attractive logo and a kit that has a design that can be stuck to and only altered slightly for commercial gain, not changed completely every year (there is another kit coming out this year BTW for those of you that don't know!). But I don't think that is a logical reason to not support them! Jesus Christ, how many fans would Wigan have lost over the years if this was a logical reason!

It seems to me that the Great Britain vs England argument is a waste of time except for the Sport England funding issue. Unless we have strong international teams representing Wales, Scotland, Ireland etc, and therefore a strong home international scene, all the best players will want to play for England as they'll be the only ones who'll ever get a hint at a competitive game against Aus and NZ.

However, by the time the RFL puts its mind to meaningful support of all the home nations, I'll be old and grey.