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Quote: Mr Hicks "After tonights results i think the sport i love is making a fool of itself.
How can Widnes say they are competing in SL when they get 76 points put past them.
Bottom team in SL score 36 points with no reply against a team above them in front of a crowd of 2,268
This is not taking a pop at Widnes but im not sure why there in SL 4th in 2009, 5th in 2010 and 5th or 6th in 2011.
How long can the likes of Featherstone, Halifax and Leigh keep attracting sponsers and investors without a bigger picture.
Then you have teams like Keighley who have ambition again but when you can not go any further where does it all end.
Bradford in trouble, Wakefield who have had money problems, Crusaders gone bust and now in Championship 1.
Let the smaller teams have there day and who knows what they might achieve in the future.'"

i agree with this and if it happend from the start widnes would never have been out of super league . since they finished 2nd bottom when they was omitted to allow catalan dragons in who never gained promotion . we lost all them years and youth devlopment as a results of the crooked rfl

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Quote: headhunter "You are seriously attempting to use the newly promoted team being beaten by 76 points as an argument for yearly promotion and relegation?'"


they finished 5th, Leigh put 50+ points past them twice last season.

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thing is, under Neil Kelly when Widnes got promoted to SL, in their 1st season finished 6th.

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Quote: Budgiezilla "thing is, under Neil Kelly when Widnes got promoted to SL, in their 1st season finished 6th.'"

And even then they were miles away from finishing top of the table in the old NFP in their promotion year. I'd throw in a wink but it still hurts 11 years on!

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Quote: Budgiezilla "they finished 5th, Leigh put 50+ points past them twice last season.'"
thankfully the RFL don't care about that!

i don't see why so many fans fail to understand that the current system is all about what you do off the field and not on it! yes it'd be nice to have P&R but sadly there is neither the money or a big enough player pool for that to be a reality at the minute; super league teams use to spend money they didn't have trying to stop themselves going down, mainly throwing it at average aussies, and the championship clubs would do the same trying to come up. Then when it was actually decided who was going down / coming up, they would have to go out and sign virtually a complete new squad as the gap is too wide to keep the same players. None of which helped improve the player pool and/or talent, increased the wider appeal of the sport, made it more appealing for neutral fans, etc

Whilst I do think the RFL have got many things wrong*, including some things in the current system (i.e. too many teams, not enforcing the quota/club trained rule well enough, etc), the reasoning for the system to be in place is excellent.


*sadly not helped by the 'me' culture and shortsightedness that's exists at most clubs. Just look at Bradford, the current management team have got the club into a big mess but are still unwilling to give the club over to someone else because "they're the best people to take the club forward..."

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suppose so, but frustrating to be a fan of a club (with ambition) knowing it maybe 2015, 2018, or 2021 before you get THAT opportunity. I know Widnes fans might not be enjoying this season too much, and I hated our 2005 SL season - I was chuffed when we didn't get thrashed. It's a pity the 'gulf' is SO big between SL & championship clubs, footie clubs do OK in their 1st season in the premiership.

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