Team in WCC losing the game before shocker.

Leeds fail to beat Wigan 5th time in a row, shocker!

Isn't it usually team losing game after WCC shocker?

Wigan where very good tonight, considering we had carmont, farrell, prescott and fielden missing not a bad effort. We all know wigan will be up there this year.

Leeds tend to win when it matters though.

What, like at wembley? have Leeds ever beaten Wigan in a final?

Wigan 6 - 0 Leeds

in major finals suggests otherwise.

I said this when Leeds won the Grand Final but the only reason they won - or got remotely close to the final was Rob Burrow, take him out of the game and Leeds offer little in attack

Wigan controlled Burrow tonight and Leeds didnt look like scoring

Chomp, chomp! Leeds have been much more successful than Wigan in recent years. I don't suppose they give a tuppeny t who they beat in the many grand finals they've contested.

At least half of these were when Wigan were the only full time pro team in the country, so when you consider the full picture, it's a little more balanced than you'd like to paint.

Wigan were by far the better team tonight, but you don't win SL in round 2...

Leeds went full-time professional before Wigan did. The 0 against Leeds suggests there's no balance at all.

Did anyone else think it would be worth an 8 point try when Lee Smith slid in legs first into Charnley?

I must admit I was happy to see him in pain not long after, he is an utterly despicable character the way he behaves on the pitch (usually throwing a punch after "winning" a penalty etc) so to see his game shortened was a happy sight.

BTW, I am also a little disappointed that McIlorum had the tenacity to do something similar to Hauraki when he was given a penalty for being held down. We need a rule change which stops this sort of behaviour. At the moment you can only give a scrum against a penalty in this situation, it needs to be a reversed penalty.